Brief Summary of CRPA Ammo Webinar

[hoystory]

For those of the TL;DR disposition, I've posted a summary, along with the CRPA's helpful flow-chart, of yesterday's webinar.

You can find it here.

[Skip_Dog]

Thank you.

[Eureka1911]

One small error in the summary was in the weirdness sections. There was not a limit on how much ammunition a California resident could bring back into the state as long as it was legally purchased here prior to leaving the state. The 50 round limit was proposed but not passed into law.

[hoystory]

One small error in the summary was in the weirdness sections. There was not a limit on how much ammunition a California resident could bring back into the state as long as it was legally purchased here prior to leaving the state. The 50 round limit was proposed but not passed into law.

I may need to make that more clear. You're right if you're supposing they bought x number of rounds in California and left the state with them to do a marksmanship competition or hunting. They can return with any amount of unused rounds originally bought in California.

I'm referring to this from the companion Senate bill that created this mess and ammunition purchased outside the state:

30368. (a) Commencing July 1, 2019, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased from outside of this state unless he or she first has that ammunition delivered to an ammunition vendor in this state for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30366.

(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following bringing or transporting into this state any ammunition:

(11) A person who purchases the ammunition from an immediate family member, spouse, or registered domestic partner if the person brings or transports into this state no more than 50 rounds.

(15) A licensed hunter who purchased the ammunition outside of this state for use in a lawful hunting activity that occurred outside of this state if the person brings or imports no more than 50 rounds into this state and the ammunition is designed and intended for use in the firearm the hunter used in that hunting activity.

(16) A person who attended and participated in an organized competitive match or league competition that involves the use of firearms in a match or competition sponsored by, conducted under the auspices of, or approved by, a law enforcement agency or a nationally or state recognized entity that fosters proficiency in, or promotes education about, firearms, and the person brings or imports into this state no more than 50 rounds of ammunition designed and intended to be used in the firearm the person used in the match or competition.

[savoirrangefaire]

Was not aware that 'Federal Limits Apply' on current license or ID requires additional documentation of lawful presence in U.S. in order to purchase ammo or firearms after July 1.

I think the emergency regs which address that issue are awaiting approval from the OAL. Has that occurred?

[hoystory]

Was not aware that 'Federal Limits Apply' on current license or ID requires additional documentation of lawful presence in U.S. in order to purchase ammo or firearms after July 1.

I think the emergency regs which address that issue are awaiting approval from the OAL. Has that occurred?

That requirement was set to be approved yesterday (Thursday, 6/28/19) and at the Wednesday webinar, the lawyers were of the opinion that it would be OK'd without much fuss.

Checking the OAL's site this morning still shows it as pending.

We'll see what happens, but if it isn't in place by Monday, I suspect it will be in place shortly thereafter.

[savoirrangefaire]

That requirement was set to be approved yesterday (Thursday, 6/28/19) and at the Wednesday webinar, the lawyers were of the opinion that it would be OK'd without much fuss.

Checking the OAL's site this morning still shows it as pending.

We'll see what happens, but if it isn't in place by Monday, I suspect it will be in place shortly thereafter.

Cubeiro letter in opposition to the 'emergency' was quite persuasive. I'm not sure the emergency regs will be approved, despite what Mr. Cubeiro had to say in the webinar.

[Eureka1911]

I may need to make that more clear. You're right if you're supposing they bought x number of rounds in California and left the state with them to do a marksmanship competition or hunting. They can return with any amount of unused rounds originally bought in California.

I'm referring to this from the companion Senate bill that created this mess and ammunition purchased outside the state:

Prop 63 nullified the Senate law. It bans ALL importation of ammo bought outside CA unless it goes through a FFL.

[vino68]

OP, thanks for helping people understand the new regs.

[hoystory]

Prop 63 nullified the Senate law. It bans ALL importation of ammo bought outside CA unless it goes through a FFL.

False. The Senate bill had a bunch of provisions that were made to change and even nullify parts of Prop. 63 should it pass.

For example, if you actually read Prop. 63 it stated that ammunition purchase authorizations would be good for 4 years. The Senate bill overrode it and said you have to undergo a background check every time and the authorization is only good for a single purchase transaction.

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[hoystory]

Cubeiro letter in opposition to the 'emergency' was quite persuasive. I'm not sure the emergency regs will be approved, despite what Mr. Cubeiro had to say in the webinar.

Sometime late this afternoon the emergency regs were approved per the OAL website.

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[93chipper]

I don’t know if it’s true or not but I heard that if you have long guns that you purchased before 2014 you have to register them on the doj website

[4sallypat]

Wait huh ???

My oldest longarm was from 1987 some were hand me downs from my father - I have to register ????

[Dirk Tungsten]

I don’t know if it’s true or not but I heard that if you have long guns that you purchased before 2014 you have to register them on the doj website

Nope, not true. Whoever told you this probably misunderstood how the law works. If you're in the AFS (meaning you've purchased a gun since 1990) that's what's being used for the background check. It has nothing to do with you having to register your guns.