2019 AB 603 - Melendez - Firearms: retired peace officers

[Markinsac]

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB603

[mshill]

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201920200AB603University of California Police Department who has qualified for and accepted Duty Disability Income or an equivalent status pursuant to the University of California Retirement Plan.

How big is that lobby? Or, better yet, does Melendez have friends or relatives that fall into that category?

[onelonehorseman]

Furthering the special entitlement carve outs for the LE unions who simultaneously collude with democratic legislators to limit/reduce the 2A rights of the rest of CA's law abiding citizens.

[thetruecheese]

B-but the police are our friends!

[big red]

if you believe the police in this state are our friends then you more than qualify for a place in a locked facility.

[Markinsac]

Melendez is a Republican - her bills are usually good.

[mshill]

Melendez is a Republican - her bills are usually good.

That's what I thought... maybe she is sliding this in to get some leverage on a forthcoming equal protection lawsuit. Although, that would be a pretty lame excuse to make yet another carve out.

[non sequitur]

AB 603 - Melendez

AB 603 was drafted as a direct response to this:

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1866635.html

[JWHuey]

Along these lines, I know a guy, who is a medically retired LEO.
When it became law that honorably ret LEO can possess "hi cap" magazines, he took that as a go ahead to drill out all the rivets on his blocked 10/30, and he assures me it is 100% legal for him to possess, and use these in his RBBAWs.

Can anyone weigh in on this?

I think that this is manufacturing an illegal magazine, and is just as illegal for him to do, as it would be for me. Regardless of his ret LEO status...

[aolis110]

I have been wondering the same thing. Retired peace officers can now go out and buy or acquire 30 rd. AR and AK mags?

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

Along these lines, I know a guy, who is a medically retired LEO.
When it became law that honorably ret LEO can possess "hi cap" magazines, he took that as a go ahead to drill out all the rivets on his blocked 10/30, and he assures me it is 100% legal for him to possess, and use these in his RBBAWs.

Can anyone weigh in on this?

I think that this is manufacturing an illegal magazine, and is just as illegal for him to do, as it would be for me. Regardless of his ret LEO status...

Continued possession is legal. Manufacturing, importing, sales, etc to retired LEO is not.

32406. Subdivisions (b) and (c) of Section 32310 do not apply to the following:
(a) An individual who honorably retired from being a sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or an individual who honorably retired from being a sworn federal law enforcement officer, who was authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of that officer’s duties. For purposes of this section, “honorably retired” has the same meaning as provided in Section 16690.

[JWHuey]

Continued possession is legal. Manufacturing, importing, sales, etc to retired LEO is not.

32406. Subdivisions (b) and (c) of Section 32310 do not apply to the following:
(a) An individual who honorably retired from being a sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or an individual who honorably retired from being a sworn federal law enforcement officer, who was authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of that officer’s duties. For purposes of this section, “honorably retired” has the same meaning as provided in Section 16690.

Yeah. I get this. What I am saying is that he owned 10/30 pmags, ak mags, etc and MODIFIED them to standard capacity after the fact. He NEVER owned any 30 round mags as a LEO. Get it?

In fact, he purchased his first semi auto rifle (an AR) AFTER he retired.

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

Yeah. I get this. What I am saying is that he owned 10/30 pmags, ak mags, etc and MODIFIED them to standard capacity after the fact. He NEVER owned any 30 round mags as a LEO. Get it?

In fact, he purchased his first semi auto rifle (an AR) AFTER he retired.

I do get it. What he did was manufacture a LCM. Like I said that is not covered in the exemption.

"Continued possession is legal. Manufacturing, importing, sales, etc to retired LEO is not. "

[JWHuey]

I do get it. What he did was manufacture a LCM. Like I said that is not covered in the exemption.

"Continued possession is legal. Manufacturing, importing, sales, etc to retired LEO is not. "

Okay, and then the further action of using them in a bb RAW is a major issue as well, correct?

When i tried to explain this to him, he shrugged me off and said I was hating because he was able to do it, and I am not...

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

Okay, and then the further action of using them in a bb RAW is a major issue as well, correct?

When i tried to explain this to him, he shrugged me off and said I was hating because he was able to do it, and I am not...

Actually it wouldn't be a problem. It's already a RAW so using a LCM in it is a nothing burger. The only crime would be the the act of manufacturing a LCM. ( 32310 (a) ) Of course it would have to be proven that he manufactured it.