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  • 69Mach1
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    • Jan 2006
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    Non thumbhole stock project finished.

    My project to fill in a thumbhole stock is finally finished. The first one done is an AK stock. Here's how I did it.

    First the supplies.
    I bought a one gallon kit of polyurethane mix, called "Monster Cast". It'll make 2 gallons actually. I opted for the black mix, so I didn't have to add anything to it to get it to that color. Here's where I purchased it from:
    MOTION PICTURE F/X COMPANY
    123 S. VICTORY BLVD.
    BURBANK, CA 91502
    818 563-2366
    I had to also buy a urethane parfilm spraycan to coat whatever I'm pouring the mix onto, so that it does not bond with the surface, and some molding clay as well. To use it, you measure out equal amounts of each liquid, then stir them together vigoriously for 30 seconds, pour them into the stock and they will combine to become a solid. Here is everything you need, including the mix and parfilm, a scale, stir sticks, clay, plastic cups, and a hair dryer (used to soften the clay). CAUTION: This material is an irritant. Do not inhale it, get it on your skin, or work with it in an enclosed space. Take the neccessary precautions.


    Preparing the stock.
    It's a two piece design. I started with the molding clay and filled in 2/3rds of the stock to make the first piece, a small filler to be used as a plug so that I could pour the mix directly into the stock. Pack the clay from the left side as flat as possible, and spray the parfilm so that the piece can easily come out, then pour.Here's the finished part.


    I then screwed the stock screw back into the top of the stock and plugged the bottom of the hole with a little clay. Next I used a drill bit and dremel cutter to cut a hole into it and countersink a black wood screw just long enough to be completely covered by the polyurethane mix. I also cut and countersunk two additional wood screws near the end of the buttstock. (Tip: when cutting into the wood with the dremel, apply oil to it to keep the burning to a minimum)Then the small piece is secured to the stock with tape and more clay is molded around the sling attachment to create a dam to hold the mix. Like this.


    Pouring the mix. CAUTION: This material is an irritant. Do not inhale it, get it on your skin, or work with it in an enclosed space.
    I decided to pour the liquid in two parts, so addtional screws were inserted into the stock to hold both parts together just in case they did not bond to each other. Next I spray the parfilm onto the surface where I'm going to pour the mixture. I poured the first batch and waited for it to harden but not completely set so that it has a better chance of bonding with the second coat. Then I poured the second batch, being watchful of the rising level of the mix. Once done I let it set and remove the clay. The finished product is a very solid filler attached to the stock in three places to make it secure. And there you have it. A non-thumbhole (nunhole) stock. I have plenty of polyurethene left to do additional AK thumbhole stocks and will also try and do an HK91 stock.

    Click on the photo to view the video.
    Last edited by 69Mach1; 08-07-2007, 12:33 AM.
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    69Mach1
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    .......
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      69Mach1
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      Additional photos.



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        69Mach1
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        This photo shows the first step in making the small filler plug, before packing the clay flat and pouring the mix.

        I can't wait til I get to the range for an official breakin in.
        Last edited by 69Mach1; 10-18-2006, 7:43 AM.
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        • #5
          PanzerAce
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          • Oct 2005
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          O_o

          Its times like this that I wish I had a REALLY well paying job so that I could get a PSL

          Of course, even if they do list, they likely will over look the PSL
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          • #6
            Pulsar
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            • Oct 2005
            • 1048

            Would you be willing to sell one of those nice little inserts? I really want to get my PSL put together and this looks like the easiest way to make it legal.
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              luvtolean
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              • Aug 2006
              • 2063

              That is sweet!

              I am itching to pull the trigger on one of those kits.

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              • #8
                Tweak338
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                • Aug 2006
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                Very well done Mach1, i love the skull in the crosshairs

                Im jealous

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                  69Mach1
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                  Originally posted by luvtolean
                  That is sweet!

                  I am itching to pull the trigger on one of those kits.
                  Thanks.
                  Kit? Oh yeah, a kit. It was a two piece kit. Very easy to put together.
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                    69Mach1
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                    Originally posted by Pulsar
                    Would you be willing to sell one of those nice little inserts? I really want to get my PSL put together and this looks like the easiest way to make it legal.
                    No plans to make them for sale. The whole point of this post is to show everyone how easy it is to do. If I can do it, than you guys can as well. I've done the difficult parts for you, where and what to buy.
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                      markymark
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                      • Oct 2005
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                      Wow, that is a nice looking rifle. Where do you usually go to shoot? I'd like to check it out in person.

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                        shin_en
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                        Could you conceivably do this with an HK USC? I don't think you could call it's grip a thumbhole stock, but if you were to fill up the grip up to the stock, would that be legal?
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                          69Mach1
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                          Originally posted by shin_en
                          Could you conceivably do this with an HK USC? I don't think you could call it's grip a thumbhole stock, but if you were to fill up the grip up to the stock, would that be legal?
                          Yes you could. Same goes for an HK SL8. A friend of mine was just asking about that same rifle. I would prefer doing it on an SL8 so that I could use my ar15 PreBan mags.
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                            m1aowner
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                            Let us know how it shoots.

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                              69Mach1
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                              Originally posted by markymark
                              Wow, that is a nice looking rifle. Where do you usually go to shoot? I'd like to check it out in person.
                              I've been trying to get down to SGVGC before it closes, but free time is not on my side. I have the PSL, the scope mount is here, and I'm sitting on 500 rounds of Wolf 7.62x54R, so I'm eager to go.
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