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  • #31
    CALI-gula
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2006
    • 6755

    Originally posted by wilit
    I agree. reading the FAQ from the CADOJ website:



    Since they are essentially saying right there, the only way to keep it is to apply for a permit, it would seem that denial of that permit to anyone eligible to own a firearm would be a clear violation of the 2A.
    What a great test case for Heller application in the state of CA - using this. It's a commonly owned gun, it's comparable to other guns just like it in both action, cartridge, power, etc., and the person applying for such a permit should not be blocked in obtaining it; the gun itself is registered by serial number and to person; isn't this what the state wants anyway? This fits their Gestapo schemes nicely, however, say if this were a pedestrian Mini-14, it would not. Why would they NOT allow it to be transferred to someone who has obtained a permit? What would be their reasons for not allowing it - that it can "spray bullets from the hip?".

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    • #32
      TatankaGap
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 76

      Originally posted by Centurion_D
      I'm praying for the day when this stupid cali ban dies so RAW owners can pass them down to our children. That's what I'm waiting for.
      that day is coming soon; plan for the best
      "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

      -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

      Molon Labe

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      • #33
        NIB
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 549

        Strip it down and keep parts, sell lower out of state, buy OLL, rebuild.

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        • #34
          motorhead
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 3409

          first check to see if it's listed! some registered right after the ban just to be safe. if it aint it can be deregistered. if it's listed sell on gb or aa. ship to buyers ffl. (note-ftf interstate sales=gunrunning charges) that way no transfer expenses on your end, buyer pays their ffl fees.
          sigpic Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc

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          • #35
            lobonegro
            Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 114

            Much cheaper to slap a new receiver and call it a day than go thru the living trust.

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            • #36
              JDay
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2008
              • 19393

              Originally posted by DarkHorse
              Yes, the stripped lower would still be a RAW. It can't be de-registered, which is why you have to turn in the serialized receiver, but you can keep all of the parts, as the lower receiver is the only regulated part.
              It would be best to have a lawyer turn in the lower, you wouldn't want a transporting charge.
              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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              • #37
                REDHORSE
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2002
                • 1554

                Originally posted by DarkHorse
                Yes, the stripped lower would still be a RAW. It can't be de-registered, which is why you have to turn in the serialized receiver, but you can keep all of the parts, as the lower receiver is the only regulated part.
                Bull.

                If it's an unlisted Roberti Roos RAW, it can be De-Registered.

                A very close friend De-Registered over 20 RAWs to sell the bare receivers. He had ~40 registered Imbel FAL receivers, he eventually sold about half of them to fund other gun purchases.
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                • #38
                  NorCalPatriot
                  Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 119

                  I would take it out of state and store it someplace safe for future use. Nothing prohibts possession after its crossed state lines. There are places in Nevada and Oregon that will "rent" space for firearm storage.

                  Why sell it when you can keep it and see/use it on vacations?

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                  • #39
                    Bugei
                    Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 325

                    Reno Expatriate Rifles

                    Originally posted by NorCalPatriot
                    I would take it out of state and store it someplace safe for future use. Nothing prohibts possession after its crossed state lines. There are places in Nevada and Oregon that will "rent" space for firearm storage.

                    Why sell it when you can keep it and see/use it on vacations?
                    +1. I use such a service myself for things I didn't want to register and didn't want to keep at home. Someday the sun will shine on these rifles again, once we grind through the courts for a couple of years to beat morality into the law again.
                    --Bugei
                    The Bill of Rights. Void where prohibited by law.

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                    • #40
                      luchador768
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3224

                      Originally posted by Theseus
                      Why can't he try to register it? If he gets the approval through the DOJ then he can just keep it.

                      I don't think that in the 10 years since the ban it has ever happened. The whole point of the ban was to eliminate certain types of firearms within one lifetime. The OLL movement pretty much sank that dream though!

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                      • #41
                        krushem2000
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 896

                        Save yourself the hassle just dont bring it to light again. Dont even mention it. How many guns are out there in C&R status that would end up on AW ban list if CA imposed one again? Like Bill Clinton says "Dont ask, Dont tell policy" should apply here.
                        WTB: N4 & N6 lower / N6 upper 24" barrel
                        Beowulf Ammo/BlackHills ammo for 223/308

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