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  • Discogodfather
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2010
    • 5516

    Looks like the inital report was too soon and it's more like what Librarian said, reg is up?

    Reg up 43% Story

    "Californians have applied to register 68,848 additional assault weapons in the last 11 months"
    Originally posted by doggie
    Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
    Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
    Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
    "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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    • Discogodfather
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2010
      • 5516

      So there are 226,288 weapons in the registry, total, including all other periods.

      They got 70,000 say of 1.5 million, that's slightly less than 5%.

      And this garbage article has the antis claiming this works and is a victory and helps LEO do their jobs. What a joke.
      Originally posted by doggie
      Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
      Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
      Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
      "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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      • Drew Eckhardt
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1918

        Originally posted by robertkjjj
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        People vote. Not guns. Having 300 million guns in civilian hands doesn't help much, if that translates into only 10-20 million votes.
        With a 44-37% Democrat vs. Republican split, 5-10% of eligible voters swing elections.

        If we are to increase our ranks, we must absolutely focus on getting as many moderates as possible to "buy that first gun". So they can protect their family. After all, every person on here started their collection with that very first gun.
        Right. We need celebrity endorsements. Lots of people would buy guns and demand concealed carry permits if the Kardashians were living the pew pew life on their show.

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        • HiND-SIGHT
          Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 264

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          • Ford8N
            Banned
            • Sep 2002
            • 6129

            Originally posted by Discogodfather
            So there are 226,288 weapons in the registry, total, including all other periods.

            They got 70,000 say of 1.5 million, that's slightly less than 5%.

            And this garbage article has the antis claiming this works and is a victory and helps LEO do their jobs. What a joke.

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            • Endless
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 1881

              Originally posted by Ford8N
              I’m shocked at how many in comparison to the population of California.

              Guns are not a normal item let alone a legally owned item in a household.

              You are not going to win at the polls with these numbers.
              Different priorities vs a small rural state. 95% of households in Maine and 85% in Oregon. To me that’s the norm.

              I am glad folks aren’t registering. Folks in freestates will tell you you have to be an idiot to register any firearm with the state.

              I will be an idiot come November when I actually buy my first firearm in California. The irony is it’s a lever action and is cheaper in California than Maine. Crazy. Then I am moving back to a freestate and wouldn’t have paid the high price they go for outside of California.
              Last edited by Endless; 07-17-2018, 2:48 PM.

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              • haodoken
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 516

                Originally posted by Discogodfather
                Looks like the inital report was too soon and it's more like what Librarian said, reg is up?

                Reg up 43% Story

                "Californians have applied to register 68,848 additional assault weapons in the last 11 months"
                Maybe they are finally catching up to all the registrations in the system? That's surprising. Or else they are counting the applications versus actual completed registrations.
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                • Discogodfather
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 5516

                  Originally posted by haodoken
                  Maybe they are finally catching up to all the registrations in the system? That's surprising. Or else they are counting the applications versus actual completed registrations.
                  Whats nuts is:

                  70,000 applications

                  30 employees

                  that's 2400 applications for people to process per employee

                  261 days in a working year, that would mean 10 applications per day

                  6700 processed so far, so 233 per employee

                  That means in a year they did less than 1 application a day per employee?? I know lots could be at the end but these seems almost comical.

                  At this rate the remaining 63,000 applications will take 2100 days to finish? Am I doing this math right at 30 applications a day. That's lulz.
                  Last edited by Discogodfather; 07-17-2018, 3:58 PM.
                  Originally posted by doggie
                  Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
                  Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
                  Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
                  "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                  • CandG
                    Spent $299 for this text!
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 16970

                    Originally posted by haodoken
                    Or else they are counting the applications versus actual completed registrations.
                    They received applications for 69k firearms (from roughly 30k people), of which they've only processed 13k firearms (from roughly 6k people) so far.

                    Neither count was "wrong", they were just counting different things and everyone got confused.



                    Fun fact: DOJ had expected 1 out of every 150 citizens to register something. In actuality, only 1 out of every 1,500 registered something.

                    Last edited by CandG; 07-17-2018, 4:22 PM.
                    Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                    • scootle
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 2702

                      Originally posted by Discogodfather
                      Looks like the inital report was too soon and it's more like what Librarian said, reg is up?

                      Reg up 43% Story

                      "Californians have applied to register 68,848 additional assault weapons in the last 11 months"
                      For those who missed the reference to Librarian, this is highly consistent with the "Bird Story" from a while back...

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                      • Syntax Error
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 3817

                        Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                        They received applications for 69k firearms (from roughly 30k people), of which they've only processed 13k firearms (from roughly 6k people) so far.

                        Neither count was "wrong", they were just counting different things and everyone got confused.



                        Fun fact: DOJ had expected 1 out of every 150 citizens to register something. In actuality, only 1 out of every 1,500 registered something.

                        LOL, they might have reached their numbers if they hadn't made the registration process stupid and time consuming, requiring photos and such. If they had kept it to just a document filling and listing your serial numbers like the last RAW period, then maybe they would have gotten the numbers they wanted. They screwed themselves by making the process unnecessarily difficult.

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                        • timdps
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 3449

                          So, they were expecting roughly 250,000 x $15 = $3.75 million in income. Actual income is going to be closer to 30,000 x $15 = $450,000, so the shortfall will be around $3.4 million dollars. Oopsie!

                          The DOJ has asked for a loan of $3.7 million from Firearms Safety and Enforcement Special Fund to deposited in to the DROS fund. That $3.7 million loan is supposed to be repaid by 6/30/2021. Guess what loan is not going to be repaid? I guess the APPS program is going to be even MORE short of funds for enforcement...

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                          Originally posted by cockedandglocked
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                          • Discogodfather
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 5516

                            Originally posted by timdps
                            So, they were expecting roughly 250,000 x $15 = $3.75 million in income. Actual income is going to be closer to 30,000 x $15 = $450,000, so the shortfall will be around $3.4 million dollars. Oopsie!

                            The DOJ has asked for a loan of $3.7 million from Firearms Safety and Enforcement Special Fund to deposited in to the DROS fund. That $3.7 million loan is supposed to be repaid by 6/30/2021. Guess what loan is not going to be repaid? I guess the APPS program is going to be even MORE short of funds for enforcement...

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                            Yeah, the math adds up pretty well. Who knows if they get a ding on their millions of wasted dollars- they never have in the past.

                            That bad article didn't even mention it.
                            Originally posted by doggie
                            Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
                            Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
                            Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
                            "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                            • HiND-SIGHT
                              Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 264

                              Maybe it was their intention to rob the DROS funds for registration before the DROS accounts could be audited. They’ve been overcharging us for decades, now it’s “whoops we used it all up!(while using it to funnel money to our pockets)” can’t audit what’s not there to be refunded.
                              Last edited by HiND-SIGHT; 07-17-2018, 4:59 PM.

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                              • timdps
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 3449

                                Originally posted by HiND-SIGHT
                                Maybe it was their intention to rob the DROS funds for registration before the DROS accounts could be audited.
                                I think that is backwards. The loan was deposited INTO the DROS fund from the Firearms Safety and Enforcement Special Fund (which stole its money from the DROS fund). So the DROS fund is UP $3.7 million and the Firearms Safety and Enforcement Special Fund (which pays for the APPS enforcement program) is going to be short $3.4 million.

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