SF Gay Pride Parade.

[wildhawker]

It's clear that the only way to approach this is to keep it single-issue: RKBA.

I apologize for any confusion (and hostility) my suggestion of March 16 caused. Further, I appreciate the focus many of you have brought to this thread and effort.

Now that (I believe) the message has been clarified (2A), I would propose that this thread move back to its intended purpose: creating a powerful RKBA component for this event.

Nicki, please do chime in if I'm off base here.

[sanb909]

It's a pro-gun demonstration taking place within the context of gay rights in general.

It seems to me that you ought to be able to be straight and support the RKBA of gays without having to be sucked into the Prop 8 stuff if you don't want to be.

Personally, I voted against Prop 8 so the issue doesn't bother me, but it ought to be possible to separate one's views and march in good conscience in support of RKBA. The sooner the anti's split us up over other issues, the sooner they get what they want. Don't let it happen.

[Doheny]

Considering the shooting in Oakland, I wonder how good of an idea the parade involvement would be. I'm not sure they'd have a lot of tolerance for a gun group anytime soon.

[CitaDeL]

Considering the shooting in Oakland, I wonder how good of an idea the parade involvement would be. I'm not sure they'd have a lot of tolerance for a gun group anytime soon.

And they had tolerance for gun groups in the past? (Scoffs)

We must help disassociate criminal behavior from the possession of firearms- We cannot change the perception that guns cause crime by being 'secret' gunowners or being too fearful of what may not be accepted or who may be offended. Are you sensing some parallels here?

[edwardm]

More importantly, we need to associate gun ownership with minority empowerment. This is important regardless of whether the minority is founded on race, gender, orientation or any other distinct and distinguishing criteria historically used in furtherance of discrimination.

Gun control started as a way to control ex-slaves to keep them subservient to the entrenched political system. "Fear of revolt" is/was code for "fear of someone else having power in the system."

And they had tolerance for gun groups in the past? (Scoffs)

We must help disassociate criminal behavior from the possession of firearms- We cannot change the perception that guns cause crime by being 'secret' gunowners or being too fearful of what may not be accepted or who may be offended. Are you sensing some parallels here?

[nicki]

Parade.

I will want to meet with people who have interest within the next two weeks.

The sad event that happened in Oakland will be a distant memory by June.

Self Defense for common criminals and criminal government will be the key values I would want to push.

The issue as I have always seen it is gun rights make sure we have the ablity to enforce all of our other rights.

The idea of a pro gun march in the city that is ground zero is something that will catch attention across the country.

Right now, my focus is to find organizers, leaders and foot soldiers.
Otherwise, all we will have is internet chatter.

The best defense for gun rights is to go on offense.

I consider this action like Gen Dolittle's bomber raid on tokoyo. This will disrupt the moral of our enemies big time.

Nicki

[nagorb]

pm me with info

[GuyW]

Self Defense for [FROM] common criminals and criminal government will be the key values I would want to push.

I know its an oversight