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"Featureless Rifles" Citizens/Range Masters Uneducated, OR?
Maybe I have been misinformed or ignorant with the whole legality translation and transition towards 2018 for featureless rifle builds?
So today I went to the range with a new, never fired, 2016 legally purchased stripped lower (long rifle documented on the DOJ DROS form) that was made into a California Compliant Rifle as described and laid into the books adopted by our ignorant politicians up in Sacramento; I'm following State Law as a Law Abiding Citizen and 12 years a gun owner in the state of California, I figured I was ready and set to go for the 2017/2018 transition into a Featureless, Registered Long Gun, Unregistered NON-Assault Weapon to have fun and enjoy a little range time sighting in BUIS' & Optics on a Saturday afternoon, until the next batch of California bans and restrictions that will soon, once again, come to rape our rights. However...the case of being featureless seems to be a bit confusing to people who should in fact know or at least have an understanding of the laws at target ranges across the map in California.
First of all, here is one of my AR-15 set ups that I made strictly Cali Compliant for sight in at the range purposes and to have as much fun as we are let to have under these ridiculous laws:
1. LOWER: Stag Arms w/ CMMG lower parts kit w/ Magpul B.A.D. lever.
2. UPPER: Complete factory built Faxon Firearms ambidextrous ARAK-21 16'' upper w/ muzzle break and Troy Industries Micro HK sights.
3. STOCK: Hera Arms CQR AR15/M4 featureless stock (California version w/ metal plate blocking the thumb hole in the stock) and a Magpul A.F.G. (not a forward vertical grip).
4. MAG RELEASE: Bullet Button N/A (2018 California Law considers the BB to be a feature that reclassifies your AR-15 or any other rifle to be an Assault Weapon, unless registered, or made featureless). I took it off and still have my 10 round mags.
As of now, my AR is like a typical Mini-14, M-14, M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, Ruger 10/22, Saiga sporting rifles, etc. with a muzzle break/compensator, no pistol grip or thumb hole stock, no forward grip, fixed stock and a 10 round magazine that can readily be removed with the push of a finger. Apparently removing the Bullet Button on my featureless build didn't mean anything. FEATURELESS???
Even though the Bullet Button is and/or will be classifying the rifle as an Assault Weapon at the start of 2018 and made illegal if not removed, you must register the rifle as such, or remove the Bullet Button and have the following to be made featureless:
1. BARREL: 16" Minimum w/ a Muzzle Break/Compensator attached (No Flash Hider or Threaded Barrel)
2. STOCK: Fixed and/or Pinned if telescoping, and Non Folding.
3. FORWARD GRIP: NO Vertical/Pistol Grip on rail, A.F.G. (Angled Forward Grip) is OK,
4. PISTOL GRIP/ THUMB HOLE STOCK: None. Must have a grip wrap around the pistol grip or if thumb hole stock is present, must be sealed so a thumb cant be inserted.
5. BULLET BUTTON: 2018 will be considered an Assault Weapon. Must be registered as such or made featureless to avoid registration.
The whole point of this thread is that the Range Master at A Place to Shoot told me I couldn't shoot it. He said I needed to have a bullet button installed. I calmly explained and argued a bit with him saying that my rifle is featureless and explained to him thoroughly that coming 2018, no more bullet button. He understood and said he had no problem if I wanted to stay and shoot, but also explained for my own good to not shoot it as he has already heard that several if not more people have been approached by men with badges (didn't state what uniform or branch) given tickets/fines and having their guns confiscated at Oak Tree Gun Club and other ranges for not having BB's. He said that's the only thing they look for. Not sure if they got their rifles back, but it looks like the ones doing the confiscation don't have any idea what they are doing?
It's already MAY 2017...what the Hell is going on with California? What is legal & what is not? There is no permanent definition of the laws. Seems like a game of Russian Roulette when it comes to Gun Laws in California and the State wants Law Abiding citizens to pay the price by making them criminals. I guess we shall see.
So today I went to the range with a new, never fired, 2016 legally purchased stripped lower (long rifle documented on the DOJ DROS form) that was made into a California Compliant Rifle as described and laid into the books adopted by our ignorant politicians up in Sacramento; I'm following State Law as a Law Abiding Citizen and 12 years a gun owner in the state of California, I figured I was ready and set to go for the 2017/2018 transition into a Featureless, Registered Long Gun, Unregistered NON-Assault Weapon to have fun and enjoy a little range time sighting in BUIS' & Optics on a Saturday afternoon, until the next batch of California bans and restrictions that will soon, once again, come to rape our rights. However...the case of being featureless seems to be a bit confusing to people who should in fact know or at least have an understanding of the laws at target ranges across the map in California.
First of all, here is one of my AR-15 set ups that I made strictly Cali Compliant for sight in at the range purposes and to have as much fun as we are let to have under these ridiculous laws:
1. LOWER: Stag Arms w/ CMMG lower parts kit w/ Magpul B.A.D. lever.
2. UPPER: Complete factory built Faxon Firearms ambidextrous ARAK-21 16'' upper w/ muzzle break and Troy Industries Micro HK sights.
3. STOCK: Hera Arms CQR AR15/M4 featureless stock (California version w/ metal plate blocking the thumb hole in the stock) and a Magpul A.F.G. (not a forward vertical grip).
4. MAG RELEASE: Bullet Button N/A (2018 California Law considers the BB to be a feature that reclassifies your AR-15 or any other rifle to be an Assault Weapon, unless registered, or made featureless). I took it off and still have my 10 round mags.
As of now, my AR is like a typical Mini-14, M-14, M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, Ruger 10/22, Saiga sporting rifles, etc. with a muzzle break/compensator, no pistol grip or thumb hole stock, no forward grip, fixed stock and a 10 round magazine that can readily be removed with the push of a finger. Apparently removing the Bullet Button on my featureless build didn't mean anything. FEATURELESS???
Even though the Bullet Button is and/or will be classifying the rifle as an Assault Weapon at the start of 2018 and made illegal if not removed, you must register the rifle as such, or remove the Bullet Button and have the following to be made featureless:
1. BARREL: 16" Minimum w/ a Muzzle Break/Compensator attached (No Flash Hider or Threaded Barrel)
2. STOCK: Fixed and/or Pinned if telescoping, and Non Folding.
3. FORWARD GRIP: NO Vertical/Pistol Grip on rail, A.F.G. (Angled Forward Grip) is OK,
4. PISTOL GRIP/ THUMB HOLE STOCK: None. Must have a grip wrap around the pistol grip or if thumb hole stock is present, must be sealed so a thumb cant be inserted.
5. BULLET BUTTON: 2018 will be considered an Assault Weapon. Must be registered as such or made featureless to avoid registration.
The whole point of this thread is that the Range Master at A Place to Shoot told me I couldn't shoot it. He said I needed to have a bullet button installed. I calmly explained and argued a bit with him saying that my rifle is featureless and explained to him thoroughly that coming 2018, no more bullet button. He understood and said he had no problem if I wanted to stay and shoot, but also explained for my own good to not shoot it as he has already heard that several if not more people have been approached by men with badges (didn't state what uniform or branch) given tickets/fines and having their guns confiscated at Oak Tree Gun Club and other ranges for not having BB's. He said that's the only thing they look for. Not sure if they got their rifles back, but it looks like the ones doing the confiscation don't have any idea what they are doing?
It's already MAY 2017...what the Hell is going on with California? What is legal & what is not? There is no permanent definition of the laws. Seems like a game of Russian Roulette when it comes to Gun Laws in California and the State wants Law Abiding citizens to pay the price by making them criminals. I guess we shall see.
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