My take on today's OC CCW meeting with Hutchens

[eflatminor]

[1923mack]

I agree. The speakers were excellent. They brought up varoius matters and hit hard.

[M. D. Van Norman]

The supervisors are politicians, and their authority in this matter is very limited. However, I think they’ve made it clear to the sheriff that her diversion into concealed-carry policy is not appreciated. How much support do you think they will give her when the next election arrives?

[JSH]

I heard several times the Madam Chair call Hutchens' policy "overly restrictive", that is what BOS can do, I think.

[tube_ee]

The Board of Supervisors

can pass an ordinance that defines "good cause" in Orange County as "for personal protection against criminals" or some such verbiage.

Using the example of Measure G up in Mendo, it's pretty clear that local governments and/or the voters directly, can direct law enforcement to use (or not use) their discretion.

If the BOS won't act, maybe a ballot initiative is in order?

The County may not be able to fire her, as she's an elected official, but it is clearly within their power to tell her how to do her job.

--Shannon

[yellowfin]

They are empowered to reduce her salary to $1.

[GMONEY]

Yep I was expecting more... Looks like the people doing the hardwork behind the scenes need to just have her indicted because you know that is probably what will be in store for her. We tried to put out the olive branch now it's time to get NASTY!

Also we need to start looking for someone to rally behind for the next election...

[N6ATF]

Why did you post a separate thread about this?

http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=152902

[Python2]

They are empowered to reduce her salary to $1.

Thats a hell of a good idea! I'd bet she'd quit right then.

[Table Rock Arms]

Looked to me like the BOS did there best to sound like they were on our side, but didn't do anything to prove to me that they were.

[Black Majik]

Thats a hell of a good idea! I'd bet she'd quit right then.

Then take away her CCW.

[grammaton76]

Why did you post a separate thread about this?



http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=152902

As quick as I am to pull the "thread merge" trigger most of the time, I'll let this one stand. This is the OP's personal perspective of the meeting now that it's happened, from someone who was there.

As for reducing her salary, I suspect that minimum wage would come into the equation somewhere and give Hutchens grounds to sue. Don't want that happening.

[yellowfin]

OK, then minimum wage it is if they can't do $1. Whatever the lowest possible amount is. If they can't fire her, which I personally doubt, they should make her quit. And if she wants to sue, let her try! I doubt very seriously a judge would sympathize with an appointed employee hated by her bosses and the people she's beholden to, who stiffed a bunch of people on their Constitutional rights and stuck the county with a huge bill for the time and trouble. Let her pick up garbage for a living.

[N6ATF]

As quick as I am to pull the "thread merge" trigger most of the time, I'll let this one stand. This is the OP's personal perspective of the meeting now that it's happened, from someone who was there.

Other people who were there didn't start their own threads (that I've seen so far) - they posted within 152902. Bad precedent for everyone to start their own thread.

[motorhead]

i watched this online today. i think your board means well, sounds like you've even got one "shall issue" member but all they can do is fire her.
i don't have a dog in this fight but if i did i'd be organizing a recall drive. elected (or appointed) officials need to have the fact driven home that they serve ONLY at the will of the people.