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  • .454
    Banned
    • Jul 2008
    • 3839

    New Hampshire Reclaims State Supremacy

    Complete article here


    N.H. HRC 6:

    "That any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive Order of the President of the United States of America or Judicial Order by the Judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the government of United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America and which serves to diminish the liberty of the any of the several States or their citizens shall constitute a nullification of the
    Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America.

    Acts which would cause such a nullification include, but are not limited to:

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    V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press.

    VI. Further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition; and
    That should any such act of Congress become law or Executive Order or Judicial Order be put into force, all powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States shall revert to the several States individually. Any future government of the United States of America shall require ratification of three quarters of the States seeking to form a government of the United States of America and shall not be binding upon any State not seeking to form such a government; and
    Complete article here
  • #2
    psssniper
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2005
    • 3060

    Lets hope and pray that this is a trend.
    "I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness; I love only that which they defend.
    victus exaro somniculosus, somnus exaro ieiunium

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    • #3
      thempopresense
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 1134

      Next headline will be, "California to split into 2 States to fill the New Hampshire space and keep 50 stars on the US flag"

      lol
      Originally posted by SOCMOB
      Straight out of 1984 by George Orwell, better read it before it's banned.

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      • #4
        .454
        Banned
        • Jul 2008
        • 3839

        Originally posted by thempopresense
        Next headline will be, "California to split into 2 States to fill the New Hampshire space and keep 50 stars on the US flag"

        lol
        You meant 57 stars...

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        • #5
          glockman19
          Banned
          • Jun 2007
          • 10486

          Time to call for another Constitutional Convention?

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          • #6
            dfletcher
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2006
            • 14776

            New Hampshire is my home state. It's encouraging to see this sentiment even after all the Massachusetts folks have moved north.

            BTW, "join the Army or go to jail is not such a far fetched" approach. I've heard this was often used years ago.
            GOA Member & SAF Life Member

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            • #7
              SwissFluCase
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Jul 2008
              • 1322

              Originally posted by glockman19
              Time to call for another Constitutional Convention?
              We would have to watch that one like a hawk.

              Regards,


              SwissFluCase
              "We don't discuss the governor's arsenal in detail" - Brown spokeswoman Elizabeth Ashford

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              • #8
                7x57
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2008
                • 5182

                Originally posted by SwissFluCase
                We would have to watch that one like a hawk.
                The absolute worst disaster would be a Constitutional convention. Right now, the 2A is in the Constitution even if the left is determined to interpret it away. Even if the Commerce clause is currently interpreted as a magic wish-granting genie for every absolutist that comes along, at least the decisions that created the evil genie are there to embarass the people who like the effects. I think it *very* likely that any new Constitution would have a weak or absent RKBA and far more central power. Every "respectable" "expert" would work hard for a European-style Constitution.

                There is some chance of saving the Republic as it should be if we at least can point out the unconstitutionality of what the left (and plenty of the right) wants. If we don't have that, it's impossible. Notice that Gene says that the only route to RKBA in California is through the courts--I think the odds are very high that this route would not exist under any new Constitution.

                There is also a philosophical argument that people who cannot obey their existing constitution are the worst possible people to write a new one....

                7x57
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                Originally posted by bulgron
                I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can.

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                • #9
                  nobody_special
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1041

                  No news here, a resolution has been introduced (which does absolutely nothing if passed). The resolution has been referred to committee, and is not scheduled for a vote.

                  If it is actually voted upon and passes, that will be news...
                  Originally posted by Edmund G. Brown
                  There are certain rights that are not to be subject to popular votes, otherwise they are not fundamental rights. If every fundamental liberty can be stripped away by a majority vote, then it's not a fundamental liberty.
                  Originally posted by jeffyhog
                  When the governor vetoes a bill that would make it a felony to steal a gun, but signs a bill into law that makes it a felony not to register a gun you already legally own, you know something isn't right.

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                  • #10
                    Cypren
                    Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 293

                    Originally posted by 7x57
                    The absolute worst disaster would be a Constitutional convention.
                    Completely and totally agreed. The Founding Fathers were men who had just fought a vicious and desperate war for their freedom and survival against an oppressive regime. Modern Americans have no such experience, and the vast majority of them have been raised in an "education" system designed to indoctrinate them as worshipful peons of the Almighty State, Grantor Of All Good Things.

                    Even among strong 2A supporters, there are still many disagreements about the proper limits of state power and how much legitimacy we should cede to a government supposedly operating under the very clear instruction of a right that "shall not be infringed." (Note the thread on this very board asking how much one would pay for a CCW and the disagreement it's caused between people who see themselves as pragmatists and those who see themselves as principled.)

                    Anyone who thinks that a new Constitution wouldn't result in a document which essentially ceded the State all the power of God hasn't been paying attention to American history.

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                    • #11
                      postal16
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 509

                      our Constitution is just fine the way it is...we just need to reel in the activist judges who have damaged this country and reeducate the masses what the document says!

                      Our government has taken the same approach to the Constitution that many Christian denominations have taken towards the Bible and Unions have taken towards contracts...you don't need to read this document and waste your time, we will interpret it for you and tell you waht is says!

                      A new convention will only open the doors for an erosion of our Constitutional Rights!
                      "Never argue with an idiot, they will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experiance." - anonymous

                      bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam ping!

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                      • #12
                        aileron
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3272

                        You made it sound like it passed, its in committee.

                        I doubt it will pass, if it does... cool.
                        Look at the tyranny of party -- at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty -- a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes -- and which turns voters into chattles, slaves, rabbits, and all the while their masters, and they themselves are shouting rubbish about liberty, independence, freedom of opinion, freedom of speech, honestly unconscious of the fantastic contradiction... Mark Twain

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                        • #13
                          Cypren
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 293

                          Originally posted by aileron
                          You made it sound like it passed, its in committee.
                          Yeah. Likelihood of this actually going anywhere: near zero. But it's still cool at least one state legislator has a set of balls.

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                          • #14
                            7x57
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 5182

                            Originally posted by postal16
                            our Constitution is just fine the way it is...we just need to reel in the activist judges who have damaged this country and reeducate the masses what the document says!
                            Careful about the phrase "activist judge". We *need* activist judges at this point--Constitutionalist ones who will be activist enough to strike down unconstitutional laws. Right now we have way too many judges who know how to read it but still defer to power grabs (especially executive ones).

                            Our government has taken the same approach to the Constitution that many Christian denominations have taken towards the Bible
                            Oddly enough, it is *exactly* the same. The hermeneutical tools were first developed by theologians, especially nineteenth century German theologians, and then applied to the Constitution mostly in the twentieth. So in that sense, theological developments profoundly damaged our legal system.

                            7x57
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                            What do you need guns for if you are going to send your children, seven hours a day, 180 days a year to government schools? What do you need the guns for at that point?-- R. C. Sproul, Jr. (unconfirmed)

                            Originally posted by bulgron
                            I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can.

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                            • #15
                              bwiese
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 27621

                              Another 454 near-troll post from a non-news-source.

                              "Reclaims state supremacy..."
                              "On notice" ??

                              No such thing. This is a resolution, it has no legal force in general.

                              (Sometimes contents of a legislative resolution may be usable in certain court cases).

                              It has about as much relevance as if the NH leg. voted on their favorite ice cream flavor.

                              Bill Wiese
                              San Jose, CA

                              CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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