LGBT n Guns Documentary Being Flimed - Needs Instructor (?) Location (?)

[Samuel Whittemore]

We have been contacted by a lady Director filming a documentary conversation specific to LGBT's and Guns.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/disarm-hate-the-documentary-lgbt#/

In a whirlwind film tour traveling from West to East coast she'll be interviewing LGBT people / groups along the way --ending with the Rally called "Disarm Hate" in DC. "Disarm Hate" is the name of the Rally and NOT her documentary. While that may appear slanted (and I agree that may set some people off at first) I've been assured up/down/left/right/in/out + coupled with over an hour phone call grilling her –I trust she’s making a documentary is a TOTALLY neutral and non slanted. The name of the actual film has not been decided.

Anyways --She has asked GWG to be the first interviewed in her trip.

We are searching for a location to film our interview. Since some (4pp) in her crew (whom are all LGBTs also) have never fired a gun the Director wants them to have a safety lesson and then fire a pistol (or rifle) for the first time.

Date: Big drawback is that it’s August 9th. Almost zero planning time.

Location Needed: I want to have a setting where LGBTs who view this documentary to see there’s nothing scary about gun ranges. Currently we're in contact with LAX range –haven’t heard back. Trying for an alternate location Burbank Rifle & Revolver Club (BRRC) or Firearms Training in Southern California www.ftatv.com

Instructor Needed: Camera ready :-) instructor to handle the safety course and gun handling. To start dispelling fear –I want a gun in each of their hands to maybe break it down and put it back together again during the safety training. You will need to sign a model release of course.

This is a great opportunity for some very positive exposure showing that guns are not limited to old, white conservatives AND that gun ranges (at least Los Angeles) are friendly to ALL people.

LGBT’s on CalGuns: Please SIGN UP asap if you can come support --even if you’re not part of GWG and do not want to be IN the documentary. It is VERY IMPORTANT to have a strong showing because God knows on the other side of the issue ("the anti's") --there's going to be plenty of people who want their opinion heard.

[nagzul]

I can think of no better group to spread the 2nd amendment message. Some of us have hoped for just this type of action from the Community.
Best wishes, I am sure it will be an attention getter.

[Samuel Whittemore]

Disclaimer: Re: Instructor. No one will think you're Gay by association! If it helps we'll even state for the record you're not!

[Samuel Whittemore]

I can think of no better group to spread the 2nd amendment message. Some of us have hoped for just this type of action from the Community.
Best wishes, I am sure it will be an attention getter.

Thank you for the encouragement.

[gruntinhusaybah]

What type of instructor are you looking for?

I'm no cool guy, but I spent 9 recent years as a Combat Marksmanship Trainer in the Marine Corps, shot with the MCRD SD shooting team and the USMC pistol team. I've trained close to a thousand people on pistol, many more on rifle.

If they have money you might want to reach out to ITTS. They're as good as it gets as far as training and have an excellent range.

Either way good luck.

[Samuel Whittemore]

I am wondering now if we should even get involved.

The Rally she is filming her documentary for is extremely anti gun / gun control. http://www.disarmhate2016.info/

We could be walking into a vipers pit! but then it's a chance to voice some real opposition.

I may require that she sign something to the effect that any footage taken of us will not be used in any manner or twisted in any way whatsoever to support any anti-gun legislation or any manner of conversation, including but not limited to film or video, ads, photography, recording by her or her staff online, print or audio. FEEDBACK PLEASE? i don't want to get in over my head or have vipers biting my ankles!

[osis32]

I'd make sure you have your own recording so they don't try to Katie Couric you. You're right to be weary.

[Samuel Whittemore]

I'd make sure you have your own recording so they don't try to Katie Couric you. You're right to be weary.

The more my Co-Organizer and I review this the more wary I am becoming.

[wireless]

Co-Organizer here, I called CGF to get some feedback on this. Any other suggestions would be very helpful. I'm most concerned about the interview and their tactics.

[SWalt]

http://www.disarmhate2016.info/

I wouldn't give them any more of your time unless you want your interview to make you look like a complete and utter fool. They want to use you. Just look at their partner list. Unless.....every word out of your mouth are stats from official sources, FBI, DOJ, etc.

[wireless]

Yup, that's my concern too.

[pacrat]

Yep, only after clicking their bait link do you get to see the other half of their name.

And Realistic Gun Law Reform

Just another catch phrase like "Common Sense"

And I cropped all those that didn't include "obvious anti 2a names".

With a little creative editing, you would be 'Couric'd" to hell and back and come of in the final cut looking like a rabid Brady Supporter and Hitlery voter.

Dude, you've worked hard and diligently to get the word out about Civil Rights and Equality for All.

You have to ask yourself, "Do I want to risk it"?

Robert Burns in 1786 said,

National Action Network

Newtown Action Alliance

The Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence

Americans for Responsible Solutions

Million Mom March

Moms Rising

Coalition to Stop Gun Violence

Gays Against Guns

Women Against Gun Violence

New Yorkers Against Gun Violence

UNDER THE GUN

States United to Prevent Gun Violence

Connecticut Against Gun Violence

Students United Against Gun Violence

Sandy Hook Promise

Rabbis Against Gun Violence

Pride Fund to End Gun Violence

Gun Violence Prevention Task Force

The Vision Quilt

Cuomo Cole Productions

The ENOUGH Campaign

Gun Free UH

Greenwich Council Against Gun Violence

We The People For Sensible Gun Laws

Not a list I would want to be on.

[hardcore4sure]

If it was a genuine attempt to learn and discuss the "realistic" solutions to the problem, I'd almost volunteer, but it sounds like a politically motivated hit piece to me.

[Samuel Whittemore]

What the hell -- might as well put it all out here: here's my letter sent to her this evening in deference to the fact that she has to have an answer to go on

Jules.

Since we last talked I’ve done nothing but focus hours on this film and Rally and cultivate a lot of feedback from a variety of sources. There is some major push back with us getting involved now. The more my Co-Organizer [whom goes by "Wireless" (above) on CalGuns] and I review this the more wary we are becoming. The sense that this might go all Katie Couric is overwhelming as:

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The videos you have on the YouTube page are all about leaning toward gun control and highly sympathetic to anti gunners. While some videos only infer that (albeit strongly) others (and everyone in them) --outright and almost nauseatingly, kool-aide drinking, state it explicitly i.e.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E8wsk4wHLM --Nothing that’s even remotely balanced or pro gun / anti gun control on your YT channel.

The official Disarm Hate website is ALL ABOUT Gun Control – Zero, zippo, nada nothing neutral about it. http://www.disarmhate2016.info/

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The feeling is we’re quite literally walking into a viper’s pit --Thus:

IF we go forward I believe we will at least need to see the interview questions upfront.

I will also likely require the you, the Director, sign something to the effect that any footage taken of us will not be used in any manner, or twisted in any way whatsoever 1) No footage will be used to make or paint GWG or any pro gun group or people in any negative manner --including but not limited to: any manner of conversation be that in film, or video, ads, either print or digital (online), photographs, or audio. 2) No footage will be used to support any anti-gun agenda of any kind.

If at least those are not written / signed in a contract --I'm not risking it. Stay tuned --We’re getting feedback from some major gun groups. I hope to have a solid answer for you by tomorrow



And her reply:

Hi Marc,

I can imagine. I thank you for all the work you have been doing. Sorry for the problems this might be causing you right now.

I don’t want to make you or anyone in your group feel uncomfortable. That is not the intention. I would be willing to sign anything that would make you and GWG feel more comfortable. I know we have nothing to defend or hide and I would be willing to put that in writing however, I do not want to push this if it is causing more trouble than you originally expected. I don’t want anyone to view us skeptically or sneaky when we come. We only want to start the discussion and be warmly received in the process.


There are more promo videos - (I have not uploaded them all to Youtube but, they are all over Facebook)
Here are ALL the promos:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8tu4czgf1dh6hwe/AAB8D7dFN26LJWWX4swVs1r9a?dl=0

If you watch Joey, Dusty and Asher - their full promo spots will show you that they are pro-gun or neutral.

Also, the rally may not happen. They are $45,000 or so behind their fundraising goal (partly due to the disorganization of their rally's objective - most critics of the rally say it’s too broad or unclear) so, we will still tour America looking for the truth - the good, the bad and the ugly. The rally was just a starting point for me to make a film in response to Orlando. But, it has become so much more.
Some thoughts may not be understood to us at the time of filming but in the end, be abundantly clear. We hope to talk to all types of groups and formulate our own opinions. On our journey, we plan on visiting three famous sights of LGBTQ shootings, Gays against Guns (GAG) and Everytown (anti Gun group) along with the polar opposite, Lethal ladies, New Mexico Gun Owners, Shooting range in (exas that offered free membership to LGBTs (shiloh shooting range), NRA, Pink Pistols and more!


I would hate to miss your group. It has a place in the film, if you want it. And I can give you my word that you will be portrayed as you are - appropriately - as a group teaching gays how to respect and honor their 2nd amendment right.


Disarm Hate - the rally, is asking for reasonable gun reform. We as a group and a film are not making any definitive statement on that. And I am quite sure that most of our cast and crew haven’t decided where they stand regarding it. We joined together with the idea that we were done - angry and scared after the Orlando Pulse Shooting and forged together to make something of value for our LGBTQ community.


I hope you can take my word at face value (I am not a journalist or a sleazy media hound) and trust me because this is a great opportunity for you, me and the LGBTQ Community to know their options regarding guns. I hope you will see that I am documenting these changing times and showing our community in all lights.


Also, I know talk is cheap. I hope to show you what I mean.
Respectfully yours,
Jules

Anyways. Just wanted to put it all out there. Bottom line I HATE the idea of anti-gunners protectiling their anti-gun vomit on record without having some push back.

[emtmark]

The word smithing in the letter alone sets off alarms. Tread very very carefully


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