AW registration for virgin lower build

[bruss8503]

Will I be able to register my virgin lower pistol build so that I can then put an adjustable stock on it, a vertical foregrip etc?

Thanks for the help.

[SkyHawk]

You have issues, man.

You cannot put a stock on a pistol. That is called a short barreled rifle. That is federal. It doesn't matter what happens in CA. CA AW laws or not wont change that.

and you cannot put a vertical foregrip on a pistol, that is called AOW. Same thing.... Federal.

So, no. Just no.

And just where do you plan to get a pistol lower, since we're on the subject and you seem somewhat misguided. Do tell...

And wrong forum.

And welcome to Calguns.

[bruss8503]

Gotcha forgot about the fed part there, stupid... So basically going to have to register it as an AW like any other 16" Length, and keep it with the same "pistol" features as before? As I understand it, I may have to take it to some sort of engraving place, get the appropriate markings, then submit those on the form when all this happens?

[wireless]

Will I be able to register my virgin lower pistol build so that I can then put an adjustable stock on it, a vertical foregrip etc?

Thanks for the help.

The firearm must be 26 inches or larger to put a verticle grip on. Otherwise it becomes an AOW, which is federally illegal. If your pistol is 26 inches larger right now you can put a vertical grip on it.

You cannot put a stock on a pistol, then it becomes a short barrel rifle. Both illegal without proper federal tax stamp/state permit. You won't get one.

[bruss8503]

And... I milled an 80% lower and put a 7.5" upper on it, which is where my term pistol lower comes from. Sorry new to all this, apologize for the noob verbage

[SkyHawk]

So sounds like you are talking 80% lower? Yes, in theory that can be registered as AW and you keep it the same as they are today. Which means mag lock, no stock, no vertical foregrip.

As for the markings, we are waiting to see if another law gets signed regarding home made firearms. That will tell us what/how to mark. But yes, in theory, get it marked, register as AW.

I have a few to register myself.

[wireless]

Gotcha forgot about the fed part there, stupid... So basically going to have to register it as an AW like any other 16" Length, and keep it with the same "pistol" features as before? As I understand it, I may have to take it to some sort of engraving place, get the appropriate markings, then submit those on the form when all this happens?

If you currently have a pistol you can register it as an "assault pistol". This will not allow you to put a stock on it. IF it's larger than 26 inches today or next year or whenever, you can put a vertical foregrip on it.

[SkyHawk]

The firearm must be 26 inches or larger to put a verticle grip on. Otherwise it becomes an AOW, which is federally illegal. If your pistol is 26 inches larger right now you can put a vertical grip on it.

You cannot put a stock on a pistol, then it becomes a short barrel rifle. Both illegal without proper federal tax stamp/state permit. You won't get one.

But make sure if it is just over 26 inches, that the muzzle device is permanently attached. I have a 10.5" bbl pistol that is over 26", but the flash hider makes it just over 26": without it is not. And it is removable and ATF says that does not qualify.

[bruss8503]

Cool thx for the help eveyone

[bwiese]

Bruss8503....

1. It is unclear if DOJ will accept AW reg filings for bare receivers.

2. The gun should exist in the configuration you are filing for
at that time - otherwise false declaration risk, poss.

I think it'd be OK to attempt (early in the reg window, don't
wait till end of window because a returned filing in the
end days might be problematic??) - to put "varying" for
barrel length and put "Varying/8888" for caliber. Just for fun.

3. Adding a stock to a rifle is a violation of both FED and CA laws
(separately). AW law change or "allowed to be an AW" do not
change separate SBR laws' effects.

4. Putting a VFG on a pistol is a no-no unless it's been NFA AOW'd
first.

5. The Sig 'arm brace' is under severe risk of being considered a
stock in CA and thus triggering separate CA SBR law [regardless
of Fed ATF half-*** approval with a bunch of memos].

However, if the relevant gun is NFA AOW'd (regardless of AW
status) then the AOW exemption for *state* SBR matters
kicks in and you could have it.

[Wiz-of-Awd]

Bruss8503....

1. It is unclear if DOJ will accept AW reg filings for bare receivers.

How could they, it's not a centerfire rifle.
Could be a rimfire, or a crossbow, or a ...

3. Adding a stock to a rifle is a violation of both FED and CA laws
(separately). AW law change or "allowed to be an AW" do not
change separate SBR laws' effects.

Adding a stock to a rifle?

A.W.D.