This AIN'T the 2000 ban! Or is it?

[Redeyedrider]

I keep hearing comparisons to the 2000 ban/registration. Some people seem to think that since there was minimal restriction/confiscation resulting from the 2000 ban, that 2017 and beyond will be similar.

Others tend to believe that we are in different times and that the hammer will fall and increasing fees/restrictions/confiscations will be on the way.

What are your thoughts?

[dustoff31]

The first ban/registration in the 80s/90s only included particular named guns, i.e. Colt AR-15, HK 91, IMI Uzi, etc. The next ban/registration expanded to all sorts of manufacturers, and gadgets on the guns. The one just passed includes even more guns.

Unless the CA anti gun politicians are removed from power, there is one thing you can be sure of. The next one will be worse. It will always get worse. It will never get better so long as they remain in power.

[bohoki]

i thought this ban is just classifing a "tool-detachable magazine" is a "detachable magazine" unless the removal of the magzine is predicated on some disassembly of other parts first

its like they are really going out of their way to not ban an sks

[thedrickel]

There will be no mass confiscation. It's a war of attrition. The just slowly pick us off one by one until we're all dead, felons, or have a MCDV or the new gun violence restraining order.

[Devon]

different times

The rate of change generated by social media and ubiquitous access to internet has just made what once took a decade to shift, now takes a year. We are seeing the same trajectory of change, given the demographics of our state, but at and exponentially increased rate.

The general public had know idea what an AR 15 was in 2000.

I feel that the invasion of Iraq over publicized the rifles. Think, video games, TV shows, magazine cover and cover.

Utmost respect to our Veterans and those serving, and God bless you.

No one knows for sure.

There are a LOT more ARs and such in CA than there were in 2000, so that is one good thing.

If there is a rash of shootings in CA from RAWs in future years, the weapons will be prohibited. If we can act responsibly and keep the guns separated from any crimes for a decade, maybe we are OK long term.

Causes me a lot of stress, because there is not way to predict the future. There could be all out civil war in 2 years, you don't know.

[lost Bob]

"The general public had no idea what an AR 15 was in 2000."




An AR-15 is basically a semi-auto only version of an M-16. The M-16 has been around and in use by the US military since the mid '60's ( Viet Nam). It was commonly seen on the evening news back then.

[Oxnard_Montalvo]

There will be no mass confiscation. It's a war of attrition. The just slowly pick us off one by one until we're all dead, felons, or have a MCDV or the new gun violence restraining order.

...the gun violence restraining order that has now been 'expanded' to include your co workers who will feel 'unsafe' that you are a firearm owner therefore must be 'investigated' lest you turn your workplace (that you have never had a problem in before) into the next San Bernadino.

[cjc16]

My only thought goes to those who think we can remove our BB's once we register. Wake up people, this is California. There is no chance in hell they will let us remove our maglocks after registration.

[56Chevy]

...the gun violence restraining order that has now been 'expanded' to include your co workers who will feel 'unsafe' that you are a firearm owner therefore must be 'investigated' lest you turn your workplace (that you have never had a problem in before) into the next San Bernadino.

Especially after the registration list "accidentally" gets released.

[pacrat]

This is not a BAN, This is just a registration scheme. Which is historically the first step to confiscation.

[BigPimping]

"The general public had no idea what an AR 15 was in 2000."




An AR-15 is basically a semi-auto only version of an M-16. The M-16 has been around and in use by the US military since the mid '60's ( Viet Nam). It was commonly seen on the evening news back then.

All true. So many more rifles now.

[Dragginpanda]

Politicians will keep asking for more. They can't stand on a creating jobs, reduced crime, increased education funding, or reduced tax platform so they come after an inanimate object.

[Devon]

Yes

Politicians will keep asking for more. They can't stand on a creating jobs, reduced crime, increased education funding, or reduced tax platform so they come after an inanimate object.

Yes, all the gun banning is really a diversion from anything that matters. Perfect for people who like to discuss and commiserate and complain rather than actually work or do anything. Like a lot of liberals I know.

[Untamed1972]

Remember they tried to ban ALL semi-autos last year, which would have included things like your grand pappy's Garand. Brown vetoed that one because he said it was "too broad", so they sent him one this year that he would sign. If Newsome is becomes governor they will send HIM the "ban all semi-autos" bill and he WILL sign in.

This current bill specifically targeted rifles that were intentionally compliant with the law. So we are all getting punished for complying with the law. So what makes anyone think that down the road there will not be more punishment for compliance doled out as well?

[Untamed1972]

This is not a BAN, This is just a registration scheme. Which is historically the first step to confiscation.

Not entirely true. Its a 2-headed snake. Its registration for those who currently own. And a ban for those who do not. And it is at best "delayed confiscation" for those who do own and register.