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  • SmokeTheClay
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 874

    NRA Silent on opportunity for Black Killings

    The NRA needs to really look at these killings. The fact that the individuals were killed because they had a gun goes against everything we stand for. It's a situation where we can garner support from individuals who deservingly need support and can support us.

  • #2
    TRICKSTER
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2008
    • 12438

    Originally posted by SmokeTheClay
    The NRA needs to really look at these killings. The fact that the individuals were killed because they had a gun goes against everything we stand for. It's a situation where we can garner support from individuals who deservingly need support and can support us.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/07/07/nras...hot_by_police/
    So let me get this straight. You want the NRA to support convicted felons that have outstanding warrants, violently resist arrest and are carrying firearms illegally?


    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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    • #3
      HardwoodRods
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1093

      What? when did the NRA become the court?
      "A free people ought to be armed" George Washington, 1790

      "Don't fire unless fired upon. But if they mean to have war, let it begin here" Capt. John Parker, 19 April 1776, Lexington Green

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      • #4
        Brother_Hesekiel
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 771

        The primary criticism on the NRA of "non-gun" folks is that they presumably support anything gun, are not willing to compromise, and just work for the gun industry. The last thing the NRA needs is to be accused of taking side of a convicted felon who committed another felony by having a firearm on him and a second felony for brandishing a gun and a third felony for assault of a police officer. I don't see how this would help law abiding citizen's cause . . .

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        • #5
          TRICKSTER
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2008
          • 12438

          Originally posted by GoCommando
          Did you even read the article? The second example had a CCW and was complying. In the video he clearly has his seat belt still after being fatally shot.
          Did you read the article? We really don't know what happened with Philando Castile but the article and the OP isn't just about him.
          Last edited by TRICKSTER; 07-07-2016, 12:27 PM.


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          • #6
            dustoff31
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2007
            • 8209

            I'll hazard a guess that he did read the article. The first example is the case he was referring to.

            Any attempt to cast both cases in the same light is ridiculous.
            "Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook Pegler

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            • #7
              j-shot
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 1646

              Originally posted by TRICKSTER
              So let me get this straight. You want the NRA to support convicted felons that have outstanding warrants, violently resist arrest and are carrying firearms illegally?
              I think OP is referring to the shooting in Falcon Heights, Minnesota of Philando Castile
              Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
              ...what we have here is a hillary panty sniffer...
              Originally posted by Appleseed
              A Rifleman understands that owning and mastering a rifle is part of his heritage as an American.
              Originally posted by ProShooter
              No man, butt rape is happening like, all of the time in prison. It's basically just one huge orgy.

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              • #8
                ScottsBad
                Progressives Suck!
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • May 2009
                • 5610

                I don't think the NRA should get in the middle of a race baiting media storm. The NRA does not need to say its wrong when a cop shoots a licensed black man carrying a gun, obviously something went wrong there. And the NRA is smart to be quiet until the actual facts are known in any case.

                The NRA would make a grave mistake by commenting on the media storm of the moment in almost all cases.
                sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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                • #9
                  SVT-40
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 12893

                  Originally posted by SmokeTheClay
                  The NRA needs to really look at these killings. The fact that the individuals were killed because they had a gun goes against everything we stand for. It's a situation where we can garner support from individuals who deservingly need support and can support us.
                  There is no proof or fact that:

                  "The individuals were killed because they had a gun"..

                  The fact may be that they were killed because of what they did with that gun...
                  Poke'm with a stick!


                  Originally posted by fiddletown
                  What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                  • #10
                    Redeyedrider
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 1720

                    Originally posted by j-shot
                    I think OP is referring to the shooting in Falcon Heights, Minnesota of Philando Castile
                    I didn't read the article but I did notice the OP used the term "individuals". I am guessing that the use of the plural was meant to group the prohibited armed felon that was resisting along with the law abiding LTC individual.

                    The two shootings, at this point, should not be discussed with the same breath.
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                    • #11
                      monk
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 4454

                      Originally posted by HardwoodRods
                      What? when did the NRA become the court?
                      Serious? So the NRA can't give an opinion on this before any possible court proceedings? Since when did they hold off on giving opinions before?

                      Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                      So let me get this straight. You want the NRA to support convicted felons that have outstanding warrants, violently resist arrest and are carrying firearms illegally?
                      Who are the felons? If you mean the second guy who was killed, he had misdemeanors but was still allowed to have a CCW. And since when do officers not pat someone down prior to cuffing them?


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                      • #12
                        MultiCaliber
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 513

                        LoL. Salon. Ehermagherd. As far as complying, we don't know. His girlfriend started her video after the shooting. To me it seems the cops are super wound up and running scared.

                        The other one is a done deal. Dude got tazed and tackled and went for his piece while having two cops on top of him. Also he was a registered sex offender, felon and carrying while being those things. Nothing to align with there.

                        Damn shame. I never like to see anyone killed.

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                        • #13
                          TRICKSTER
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 12438

                          Originally posted by monk
                          Serious? So the NRA can't give an opinion on this before any possible court proceedings? Since when did they hold off on giving opinions before?



                          Who are the felons? If you mean the second guy who was killed, he had misdemeanors but was still allowed to have a CCW. And since when do officers not pat someone down prior to cuffing them?


                          Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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                          • #14
                            j-shot
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 1646

                            Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                            Did you read the article? We really don't know what happened with Philando Castile but the article and the OP isn't just about him.
                            Originally posted by Redeyedrider
                            I didn't read the article but I did notice the OP used the term "individuals". I am guessing that the use of the plural was meant to group the prohibited armed felon that was resisting along with the law abiding LTC individual.

                            The two shootings, at this point, should not be discussed with the same breath.
                            Agreed, the sterling guy. Pure trouble.
                            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                            ...what we have here is a hillary panty sniffer...
                            Originally posted by Appleseed
                            A Rifleman understands that owning and mastering a rifle is part of his heritage as an American.
                            Originally posted by ProShooter
                            No man, butt rape is happening like, all of the time in prison. It's basically just one huge orgy.

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                            • #15
                              GregsCCW
                              Member
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 233

                              The only shooting that could maybe deserve some support depending on what the facts are is the guy who allegedly had a CCW that was shot by police. IF there is a bodycam and it shows him doing everything right in terms of how he reveals that he has a CCW to the cop and that he is calm and being careful about his hands, and then the cop shoots him anyways then he deserves some support. Otherwise he was an idiot and it goes to show how careful we all have to be with police if you CCW. This guy though who got shot in the chest point blank, I see no reason to support him. If he was unarmed maybe you could support him for being killed with excessive force, but from what I've heard that was indeed a gun they pulled off of him. If he was armed, and was acting like that, with his criminal history, then he is a scumbag and maybe just maybe was thinking about taking that officer's life. The officer is a pro gun Christian and he is being attacked for that as if he is some a hole just looking to shoot people, support him if anything it's likely a total misrepresentation of what that officer is like in reality.
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