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  • bigbully
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1904

    What about DOJ visits after AW registration? - ANSWERED - Does not apply

    *UPDATE* - This does not apply to AW registration. Instead, this applies to issued permits.

    There has been lots of talk about the pros and cons of registering an AW, but I have yet to see anyone mention this part of the code:

    31110. (a)*Except as provided in subdivision (b), the Department of Justice shall, for every person to whom a permit is issued pursuant to this article, annually conduct an inspection for security and safe storage purposes, and to reconcile the inventory of assault weapons.

    (b)*A person, firm, or corporation with an inventory of fewer than five devices that require any Department of Justice permit shall be subject to an inspection for security and safe storage purposes, and to reconcile inventory, once every five years, or more frequently if determined by the department.

    (Amended by Stats. 2013, Ch. 729, Sec. 3. Effective January 1, 2014.)
    I’m still weighing going featureless or not, mostly cause I would like my under 18 kids to enjoy my rifles. However, I too would like the benefits of features on some of my rifles. That means I will either have to register or use some new method to fix my magazines. Seems this may or may not be easy for an AR15, but I have a number of other rifles that I will most likely need to register for lack of a magazine fixing device. (Not interested in permanently fixing mags either). Although I tend to keep up with the laws and comply to the best of my ability, this seems like a good opportunity for them to find other potential violations on weapons not registered as AW. Anyone of us could have easily missed something or own firearms that are in the “gray area”. I would like to hear some first hand experiences. Has anyone experienced a RAW inspection visit?
    Last edited by bigbully; 07-06-2016, 5:06 PM.
  • #2
    p7m8jg
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 1914

    I don't think the "permit" process is the same as the "registration" process. But I haven't researched it yet to be 100%sure.

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    • #3
      dogrunner
      Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 270

      Originally posted by bigbully
      There has been lots of talk about the pros and cons of registering an AW, but I have yet to see anyone mention this part of the code:



      I’m still weighing going featureless or not, mostly cause I would like my under 18 kids to enjoy my rifles. However, I too would like the benefits of features on some of my rifles. That means I will either have to register or use some new method to fix my magazines. Seems this may or may not be easy for an AR15, but I have a number of other rifles that I will most likely need to register for lack of a magazine fixing device. (Not interested in permanently fixing mags either). Although I tend to keep up with the laws and comply to the best of my ability, this seems like a good opportunity for them to find other potential violations on weapons not registered as AW. Anyone of us could have easily missed something or own firearms that are in the “gray area”. I would like to hear some first hand experiences. Has anyone experienced a RAW inspection visit?


      Excuse this ignorant Floridian for asking, but has the FOURTH amendment also been trashed in your glorious State......

      I assume that your version of the Gestapo would be expecting to be granted entrance and access to one's storage area?

      I am damned glad I do not reside in your State, unfortunately I've family that do....God hope they have the good sense to vacate!!!!!



      Reading this stuff brings to mind the video of the California HP taking down the old lady in New Orleans..............................my God, what kind of mindsets have you people permitted to develop???


      You are rapidly ceasing to be Americans, that's for sure and for certain!
      Last edited by dogrunner; 07-06-2016, 12:46 PM.

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      • #4
        bigbully
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 1904

        Originally posted by p7m8jg
        I don't think the "permit" process is the same as the "registration" process. But I haven't researched it yet to be 100%sure.
        That's a very good point. It's a bit unclear, but maybe you are right that this only applies to issued permits.

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        • #5
          CAL.BAR
          CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
          • Nov 2007
          • 5632

          Not the same thing. This refers to an AW PERMIT. Not AW Registration. I have had registered AW's for 20+ years. No inspection, and really no ramifications.

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          • #6
            CAL.BAR
            CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
            • Nov 2007
            • 5632

            Originally posted by dogrunner
            Excuse this ignorant Floridian for asking, but has the FOURTH amendment also been trashed in your glorious State......

            I assume that your version of the Gestapo would be expecting to be granted entrance and access to one's storage area?

            I am damned glad I do not reside in your State, unfortunately I've family that do....God hope they have the good sense to vacate!!!!!



            Reading this stuff brings to mind the video of the California HP taking down the old lady in New Orleans..............................my God, what kind of mindsets have you people permitted to develop???


            You are rapidly ceasing to be Americans, that's for sure and for certain!
            Yeah, because NOTHING ever bad happens in FL!!! (LOL)

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            • #7
              bigbully
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 1904

              Originally posted by CAL.BAR
              Not the same thing. This refers to an AW PERMIT. Not AW Registration. I have had registered AW's for 20+ years. No inspection, and really no ramifications.
              Good info. Thanks for posting.

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              • #8
                Oceanbob
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2010
                • 12719

                I've had 11 Registered Assault Weapons in my safe at home for 26 years and
                Not a peep from anybody..



                I actually moved 10 years ago and forgot to update my address. Called CDOJ
                And per their procedure (requested letter, notorized with my CDL) got a new
                Updated RAW Letter. I made copies and have one in each gun case if I am ever questioned by anyone.

                I think the mindset is "Hey, he followed the law and registered his Assault Weapons, why should we waste time and hassle him?"

                Seriously there are tons of unregistered AR 15s floating around Kalifornistan.
                Some people refused, some people just don't know. Or care.

                I personally think if CDOJ sent out teams to check lawful citizens and their RAWs they might run into a guy on the edge who will be mad enough to start a fire fight.
                We don't want that....

                If we ever get roaming bands of CDOJ teams dressed in battle gear (SWAT) going to lawful gun owners homes as a show of force then Tyranny Has Arrived.

                The Foundng Fathers warned us about that folks....

                Just my opinion kids.

                Be well

                Bob
                May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                • #9
                  bohoki
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 20758

                  an assault registration is not a permit i think that is some special weapons permit regulation

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                  • #10
                    HardwoodRods
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1093

                    Originally posted by CAL.BAR
                    Not the same thing. This refers to an AW PERMIT. Not AW Registration. I have had registered AW's for 20+ years. No inspection, and really no ramifications.
                    ^^^^^ This ^^^^^

                    100% correct, apples and oranges
                    "A free people ought to be armed" George Washington, 1790

                    "Don't fire unless fired upon. But if they mean to have war, let it begin here" Capt. John Parker, 19 April 1776, Lexington Green

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                    • #11
                      DocClark340
                      Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 316

                      Question?????

                      So if we register as AW's we do get to take the BB's off of the firearms????
                      After all a BB equipped firearm is considered a detachable magazine rifle.
                      Correct?????
                      More Gun Control Laws are Insane

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                      • #12
                        Dano3467
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 7381

                        I'll gonna pass on the Registration thing. too many strings.

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                        • #13
                          bazineta
                          Senior Member
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 647

                          Originally posted by dogrunner
                          Excuse this ignorant Floridian for asking, but has the FOURTH amendment also been trashed in your glorious State......

                          You are rapidly ceasing to be Americans, that's for sure and for certain!
                          Actually, with the way that Restraining Orders work now, one could argue that yes, 4A pretty much doesn't matter here.

                          And you are indeed correct -- the best thing about CA is that it's so close to the US; typically you can drive there in only a few hours from just about anywhere.

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                          • #14
                            MaHoTex
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 5002

                            Originally posted by DocClark340
                            Question?????

                            <CENSORED>
                            Correct?????
                            Perhaps you should just send an email to De Leon and ask him. That would be a fantastic idea, almost as great an idea as broadcasting on the internet while there is still time to gut and amend a law.
                            NRA Life Member

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                            • #15
                              TRICKSTER
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 12438



                              Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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