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  • #16
    robertkjjj
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 900

    Originally posted by Afterimage
    How can this be legal?

    I purchased it fair and square. Why am I unable to pass it down to my children after I have expired?

    Confused...
    Until an attorney or what-not can prove to me that this policy is any way remotely enforceable, my family will just ignore such silliness.
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    • #17
      pluke the 2
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 1926

      Originally posted by Jimi Jah
      Taxation without representation.

      Sound familiar? Maybe only to those over 40 that had US history classes that included stuff beyond slavery and civil rights.
      there are those on here under 30 who are well informed about the issues at hand

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      • #18
        buttfish
        Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 497

        Cache and GPS. They'll never find it.

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        • #19
          Solidsnake87
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 4399

          Legal question about SB880.

          I was just thinking, since long gun registration went into effect 1/1/14, Wouldn't forcing me to pay a fee to re-register an already registered long gun as an AW be unlawful? It's essentially extortion. The burden should be on them to re-register at their cost since they know which post January 1, 2014 guns people have.

          On a similar note, I understand that they have defined fixed magazine. However, there are other ways of pinning a magazine, such as a prince50, a rivet, or welding. The law does not account for these and, especially in the case of a rivet or welding, there is no way magazines could be considered not fixed even if they don't meet the CA criteria for fixed magazine.

          Couldn't these be grounds for lawsuit? The first point I bring up affects all post January 1, 2014 purchases so I would think it would fit the bill for a class action.

          Please, serious discussion only.
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          • #20
            Mitch
            Mostly Harmless
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2008
            • 6574

            Originally posted by Afterimage
            How can this be legal?

            I purchased it fair and square. Why am I unable to pass it down to my children after I have expired?

            Confused...
            This is nothing new, you know. Registration originally ended in 2000.
            Originally posted by cockedandglocked
            Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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            • #21
              GunRunnerz
              Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 216

              Or maybe the fact that they grandfathered our mags and are now stealing them without compensation.

              Or the fact that a registry is against the law.

              Or the fact that they exempted themselves from the law.

              I don't think the legal system is really working here. That's why I am targeting the cash side of things. Money talks.
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              • #22
                Librarian
                Admin and Poltergeist
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 44631

                Your previously purchased long guns are not 'registered' in the way the law for 'assault weapons' requires.

                CA has created the precedent with 1989 Roberti-Roos and 1999 'features' amendment registration requirements.
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                • #23
                  Afterimage
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 607

                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  Your previously purchased long guns are not 'registered' in the way the law for 'assault weapons' requires.

                  CA has created the precedent with 1989 Roberti-Roos and 1999 'features' amendment registration requirements.
                  So the seizure of legally owned property has passed constitutional muster?

                  Damn...

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                  • #24
                    bwiese
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 27621

                    The new reg'd AWs could be inherited/taken possession of outside CA by beneficiary.

                    Also, the estate administrator can take possession and move it/sell it out of state [perhaps with services of CA FFL w AW permit] to recover funds, so the question of 'takings' is somewhat mitigated.

                    Bill Wiese
                    San Jose, CA

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                    • #25
                      Afterimage
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 607

                      Originally posted by bwiese
                      The new reg'd AWs could be inherited/taken possession of outside CA by beneficiary.

                      Also, the estate administrator can take possession and move it/sell it out of state [perhaps with services of CA FFL w AW permit] to recover funds, so the question of 'takings' is somewhat mitigated.
                      I understand that I am free to move my property out of state.

                      I'm not looking for loopholes. I'm genuinely curious as to why I am not allowed to do the same within the state of California.

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                      • #26
                        R Dale
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 1736

                        Originally posted by Afterimage
                        I understand that I am free to move my property out of state.

                        I'm not looking for loopholes. I'm genuinely curious as to why I am not allowed to do the same within the state of California.
                        It simple CA is moving toward being what they think will be a gun free state and this law is just one of the ways they intend to bring that about. actually after this gun grab comes about most of the guns left will be in the hands of bad guys so look for a big rise in crime when CA gets though with this mess.

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