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  • Kestryll
    Head Janitor
    • Oct 2005
    • 21580

    Warning on new products!!

    As I mentioned elsewhere I met Saturday with CRPA representatives and NRA legal counsel and while we were there for something else one thing that came up was all the discussion about how to get around the new laws.

    This is a matter of serious concern because the fight is not over nor is the legislature's chances to outlaw whatever ideas are developed.

    Remember, the legislative session is NOT over.
    This means that there is ample time, a couple of months at least, to gut and amend another bill and pass even more restrictive laws that ban the currently proposed 'fixes'.

    We saw how quickly these bills were pushed through and how willing our 'representative' are to ignore policy, procedure and even law to further their agenda.
    Does anyone really think they aren't watching and wouldn't do it again?


    Remember, this is a public forum and even limiting it to Calguns members is not 'security' as anyone can register an account.

    For those who were here back in the day you might remember the OLL Forum.
    Something like that might be a reality for this but the logistics have become much larger and more involved by an order of magnitude.


    In the mean time remember we are being watched and remember they can still pass laws to block or ban any new ideas THIS YEAR.
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    HardwoodRods
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1093

    Kest, you are correct and we still have to see how DOJ says they will interpret, enforce this. I've been saying it since he signed. Since I have some experience with DOJ and their ability to interpret I think everyone just needs to take a breath and wait. I can almost guarantee the only option is going to be registration, I've been wrong and hope I am, but we shall see
    "A free people ought to be armed" George Washington, 1790

    "Don't fire unless fired upon. But if they mean to have war, let it begin here" Capt. John Parker, 19 April 1776, Lexington Green

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    • #3
      Red-Osier
      Doesn't Abide
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2015
      • 12284

      Got it
      Last edited by Red-Osier; 07-04-2016, 12:26 PM.
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      • #4
        stphnman20
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2005
        • 6583

        Yea, I remember there OLL Forum.

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        • #5
          sealocan
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2012
          • 9942

          Bumping this to the top because it's very important information that everyone here needs to see and understand.

          Thank you Kestryll.

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          • #6
            veterosa
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 1170

            Bump this

            "We cannot free ourselves unless we move forward united in a single desire."
            Emilio Aguinaldo

            Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.
            John F. Kennedy

            ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε САЙГА-12

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            • #7
              edgerly779
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2009
              • 19871

              I think everyone should shut up about work arounds. And Prince especially and he should register commercial account. Wait till final version out to panic if you feel so inclined.

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              • #8
                snowdog650
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 1108

                Tagged for the occasional bump.

                Never understood why people feel the need to openly discuss their plans.

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                • #9
                  August
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 2218

                  Maybe some parts of Calguns should be "information" only, with no discussion allowed or least limited discussion.

                  Kestryll is spot on. We're being watched, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if many or all anti-firearm laws have been created using this very forum.

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                  • #10
                    AKSOG
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 4139

                    Can you create a subforum with requirements such as a post count or membership days to view to minimize viewing by undesired?

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                    • #11
                      colossians323
                      Crusader for the truth!
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 21637

                      Originally posted by AKSOG
                      Can you create a subforum with requirements such as a post count or membership days to view to minimize viewing by undesired?
                      Good Idea.............Post counts should start at 17,000 to enter that forum
                      LIVE FREE OR DIE!

                      M. Sage's I have a dream speech;

                      Originally posted by M. Sage
                      I dream about the day that the average would-be rapist is afraid to approach a woman who's walking alone at night. I dream of the day when two punks talk each other out of sticking up a liquor store because it's too damn risky.

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                      • #12
                        CrazyCobraManTim
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 1825

                        How about a legally binding NDA clause. I know it defeats the purpose of a public forum, but......not sure what else will hold water other than a legal threat....

                        PS - just because someone has posted 20k pictures of their firearms, GF's with weapons, pithy response, etc. should not be used a (or the) litmus testing.

                        Sigh...
                        Last edited by CrazyCobraManTim; 07-04-2016, 1:23 PM. Reason: Response to another

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                        • #13
                          DB2
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1542

                          It's out of the bag. Facebook is covered with status post about Darin's new lock. I literally winced when I saw it posted. To soon, way to soon.

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                          • #14
                            SWalt
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 8025

                            Originally posted by AKSOG
                            Can you create a subforum with requirements such as a post count or membership days to view to minimize viewing by undesired?
                            I was thinking about a section where only verified members of gun rights orgs only are allowed. Of course the vetting process would require gun right orgs to verify membership which would be a huge hurdle. It also wouldn't keep spies from joining an org and then applying to join the forum. Basically the only way to keep from spilling the beans is not to mention anything that can help the socialists in power.
                            ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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                            • #15
                              AKSOG
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 4139

                              Originally posted by SWalt
                              I was thinking about a section where only verified members of gun rights orgs only are allowed. Of course the vetting process would require gun right orgs to verify membership which would be a huge hurdle. It also wouldn't keep spies from joining an org and then applying to join the forum. Basically the only way to keep from spilling the beans is not to mention anything that can help the socialists in power.
                              This is true. But currently guests pretty much anybody can see all the threads in the forum except off topic. So anything is better than nothing since it's nearly impossible to stop the chatter.

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