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  • Rosebud22
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 502

    Dear NRA

  • #2
    Fjold
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 22794

    Are you a Life Member of the NRA? Did you make a contribution since the laws were passed?
    Frank

    One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




    Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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    • #3
      Kottie
      Junior Member
      • May 2012
      • 42

      I think Deleon is termed out once his current one expires. Wouldn't be a bad move against Gruesome though.

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      • #4
        Old_Bald_Guy
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 2901

        Originally posted by Kottie
        I think Deleon is termed out once his current one expires. Wouldn't be a bad move against Gruesome though.
        Like granular silica through an equatorially constricted chronographic vessel, so are the circadian georotations of our metabolic persistences.

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        • #5
          rexbo47
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 1780

          He'd have to fight Newsom for it.
          NRA Life Member

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          • #6
            Quickdraw559
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 1890

            Originally posted by Fjold
            Did you make a contribution since the laws were passed?
            100% serious question here. Why would we do that? I'm not sure of it, but I do not, at all, believe that this is a problem to be solved by throwing MORE money at the NRA.
            WTB Oakhurst stamped CZ firearms
            WTB 12 gauge Wingmasters

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            • #7
              IGORR
              Member
              • May 2016
              • 231

              Originally posted by Quickdraw559
              100% serious question here. Why would we do that? I'm not sure of it, but I do not, at all, believe that this is a problem to be solved by throwing MORE money at the NRA.
              Because they asked politely for more money so you must give it. They said it will help so just trust them.

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              • #8
                Rosebud22
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 502

                Are you a Life Member of the NRA? Did you make a contribution since the laws were passed?
                Please be specific. What have they done for us in PRC?
                If you want my hard earned money, I expect results or at least the effort.
                So sight some specific efforts.

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                • #9
                  ErikExaminer
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 32

                  The NRA's lobbying arm, NRA-ILA, says they are going to take legal action. Do I think it will be successful? No.

                  But theoretically, & hopefully, it could be found unconstitutional and they could get it overturned. They'll take it to the District court, then 9th Circuit, then to the State Supreme Court, etc....

                  The problem is, most of the judges are all liberal in California.

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                  • #10
                    depthcharge
                    Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 175

                    Barry Kintner Marbury v. Madison, 5 US 137: “The Constitution of these United States is the supreme law of the land. Any law that is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void of law.”

                    Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105: “No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it.”

                    Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 373 US 262: “If the state converts a liberty into a privilege, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity.”

                    Owen v. Independence, 100 S.C.T. 1398, 445 US 622: “Officers of the court have no immunity, when violating a Constitutional right, from liability. For they are deemed to know the law.”

                    Scheuer v. Rhodes, 416 U.S. 232, 1974: Expounds upon Owen Byers v. U.S., 273 U.S. 28 Unlawful search and seizure. Your rights must be interpreted in favor of the citizen.

                    Boyd v. U.S., 116 U.S. 616: “The court is to protect against any encroachment of Constitutionally secured liberties.”

                    Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436: “Where rights secured (Affirmed) by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation, which would abrogate them.”

                    Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425: “An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.”

                    Miller v. U.S., 230 F.2d. 486, 489: “The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”

                    Brady v. U.S., 397 U.S. 742, 748: “Waivers of Constitutional Rights, not only must they be voluntary, they must be knowingly intelligent acts done with sufficient awareness.” “If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation. The right to freedom being a gift of ALMIGHTY GOD, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave.” —Samuel Adams, 1772

                    Cohens v. Virginia, 19 US (6 Wheat) 264, 404, 5 L.Ed 257 (1821): “When a judge acts where he or she does not have jurisdiction to act, the judge is engaged in an act or acts of treason.”

                    Mattox v. U.S., 156 US 237, 243: “We are bound to interpret the Constitution in the light of the law as it existed at the time it was adopted.”

                    S. Carolina v. U.S., 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905): “The Constitution is a written instrument. As such, its meaning does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it means now.”

                    “If the State converts a right (liberty) into a privilege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right (liberty) with impunity.” (Shuttlesworth v. City of Birmingham, Alabama, 373 U.S. 262)
                    Here’s our Founding Father’s take on the issue: “…the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” (Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution) That seems abundantly clear to me.
                    Here’s my take on the issue: All concealed carry “permits” are licenses of a right (liberty). The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105 (1943) that such licenses are illegal. Furthermore, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in Shuttlesworth v. City of Birmingham, 373 U.S. 262 (1963) that citizens “can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right (liberty) with impunity.” Combined with fact that the Second Amendment clearly states the act of keeping and bearing arms is a right seems to withdraw all wiggle room for law enforcement to behave otherwise, unless the legal examiner or legislator ignores either the Constitution or the U.S. Supreme Court decision.

                    Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States specifies the powers of the Congress of the United States. Those powers do not include impairing the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States or any other amendment to the Constitution of the United States that guarantees rights to the people or to a state;

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                    • #11
                      njineermike
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 9784

                      Originally posted by Rosebud22
                      Please be specific. What have they done for us in PRC?
                      If you want my hard earned money, I expect results or at least the effort.
                      So sight some specific efforts.
                      So, you want everybody else to have already solved the problem for you before you'll put in any help to solve the problem.
                      Originally posted by Kestryll
                      Dude went full CNN...
                      Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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                      • #12
                        elSquid
                        In Memoriam
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 11844

                        One problem is gun owners that expect to be spoon fed and have their hands held.

                        There are a number of threads discussing the things that the NRA has been doing in California.

                        Perhaps folks should take an evening and read the stickies, run a couple of searches on Calguns - heck, perhaps even go to the NRA's website and do some reading there. I'd like to think that the 2nd is important enough for gun owners to invest an evening or two to do some research...

                        -- Michael

                        NRA Endowment, frequent contributor to NRA-ILA, and occasional contributor to NRA-PVF.

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                        • #13
                          Mentiroso
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 960

                          I feel as though California = NRA piggy bank.
                          Antonio Villaraigosa
                          Unemployed Politician

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                          • #14
                            elSquid
                            In Memoriam
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 11844

                            Originally posted by Mentiroso
                            California= NRA piggy bank. When was the last time they did something for us?
                            What's the name of the law firm that the NRA retains in CA?

                            -- Michael

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                            • #15
                              readysetgo
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 8689

                              Haha what a goober.
                              Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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