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  • Hunt
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4833

    Martial artists / firearms trainers

    The premise of our second amendment is to ensure persons living free from tyranny and other threats can have the ability to protect that freedom, their lives and property. In light of this, I had an idea that would be useful to martial artists and firearms trainer entrepreneurs. There is a viable market for training to stop mass shootings by private citizens. For example, One personal security trainer and former CIA officer J. H. carries a concealed handgun and recommends en masse rushing the shooter and eye gouging them if you are unarmed. Suggested names for this type of training course could be "Safety for All", Every town for safety", Moms for safety". I am not an entrepreneur so I hope others can utilize this second amendment concept under the banner of "Safety for All" or similar.
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    teg33
    Veteran Member
    • May 2013
    • 3441

    It's not bad idea

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    • #3
      donw
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 1754

      it's a good idea, however, it's gonna take a lot of training and convincing someone to "rush" an assailant wielding an AK in full auto mode.

      that training should emphasize escape and evasion as well.
      NRA life member, US Army Veteran

      i am a legend in my own mind...

      we are told not to judge muslims by what a few do...yet, the NRA membership and firearms owners are ALL considered as radical...

      "The second amendment ain't about your deer rifle..."

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      • #4
        glockman19
        Banned
        • Jun 2007
        • 10486

        I've told this story before;

        A childhood acquaintance of mine is a 9th degree champion karate instructor. We met at the Sherman Oaks Karate Studio in the 1970's where we studied under Chuck Norris, Bob Wall, Ron Phonel.

        He was in the parking lot of a Wallmart with his daughter wen he was approached by a man with a gun who demanded his wallet. This guy is capable of killing a person with one blow...and he handed over his wallet.

        Even the best Martial Arts instructors know when the odds are against them.

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        • #5
          Hunt
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 4833

          Originally posted by glockman19
          I've told this story before;

          ...

          Even the best Martial Arts instructors know when the odds are against them.
          ... yes, precisely my point, have the experts create an armed / unarmed self defense class specifically for training private citizens how to deal with active shooters. I like the name for the course "Safety for All"
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          • #6
            SonofWWIIDI
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2011
            • 21583

            Originally posted by DeusExMachina
            Calgunners do NOT train. Sorry. This is a place to stroke the keyboard.
            There are a couple that train and receive instruction from qualified folks regularly. I am one of them. Please see this thread.

            Paramount to lack of time and money is bacon.

            Johnny Primo is coming to Prado and no one here is interested. No one has contacted me about it.
            He's one of the best that we have from the SOF world.
            http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1206724
            I take offense to that!!!! I don't stroke the keyboard, I caress it.
            Sorry, not sorry.
            🎺

            Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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            • #7
              glockman19
              Banned
              • Jun 2007
              • 10486

              Originally posted by Hunt
              ... yes, precisely my point, have the experts create an armed / unarmed self defense class specifically for training private citizens how to deal with active shooters. I like the name for the course "Safety for All"
              IMHO, the best and only way to deal with an active shooter is to shoot back.

              The club in Orlando is a gun free zone. My Florida Concealed Weapons Permit restricts me from carrying in any establishment where alcohol is the primary sold drink. Restaurants are OK as long as you don't drink.

              I called Governor Scott and urges him to allow law abiding permit holders to now carry in these "gun free zones".

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              • #8
                pharmer9
                Member
                • Sep 2015
                • 127

                Originally posted by 12-Banger
                Just keep two wallets ... one to give away and one to keep.
                Genius!!!! [emoji57]

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                • #9
                  tnlrat37
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 2166

                  San Berdoo sheriff has these classes for women, they've been doing it a few years.

                  "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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                  • #10
                    duckman45
                    Member
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 101

                    I think what this proves is that Martial Arts are just too dangerous to allow any civillian to be able to learn.

                    Right now, lunatics are being trained to attack (or defend against) multiple unarmed or armed people. We have to BAN Martial Arts.

                    According to FBI statistics you are twice as likely to be killed by hands or fists or feet than by Assault Rifles.

                    In light of this, we MUST BAN ALL MARTIAL ARTS (including deadly Yoga) at ONCE. We need to GUT and AMEND a bill RIGHT NOW FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!

                    /sarc
                    We're doomed.

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                    • #11
                      j-shot
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 1646

                      Originally posted by glockman19
                      I've told this story before;

                      A childhood acquaintance of mine is a 9th degree champion karate instructor. We met at the Sherman Oaks Karate Studio in the 1970's where we studied under Chuck Norris, Bob Wall, Ron Phonel.

                      He was in the parking lot of a Wallmart with his daughter wen he was approached by a man with a gun who demanded his wallet. This guy is capable of killing a person with one blow...and he handed over his wallet.

                      Even the best Martial Arts instructors know when the odds are against them.
                      Wise move.
                      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                      ...what we have here is a hillary panty sniffer...
                      Originally posted by Appleseed
                      A Rifleman understands that owning and mastering a rifle is part of his heritage as an American.
                      Originally posted by ProShooter
                      No man, butt rape is happening like, all of the time in prison. It's basically just one huge orgy.

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                      • #12
                        BJJ223
                        Member
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 143

                        I have a black belt in Shotokan and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I have trained for a long time. You would be surprised on how many tough dudes in each of these two arts do not own guns. It is staggering.

                        Most martial artists are a one trick pony in their one art. They have no depth.

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                        • #13
                          HotelCommiefornia
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 746

                          Originally posted by Hunt
                          en masse rushing the shooter and eye gouging them if you are unarmed.
                          Yes, I agree with that. But, most people are not heroes and martial artist and will just run to save their own life's instead, human nature.

                          If you know martial art fairly well and in the right position, one can disarm the shooter in a quick way, but that's on rare occasions.

                          It's sad that 49 people lost their life to some psycho, but the gov (Obummer) is not gonna left a good crisis go to waste.

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                          • #14
                            HotelCommiefornia
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 746

                            Originally posted by glockman19
                            "gun free zones".
                            Yup, any so called free zones is a joke!

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                            • #15
                              Mark77
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 851

                              Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth shot in the stomach
                              - Mike Tyson Me

                              I train to be as prepared as I can for whatever life throws at me. I'm not a psychic and can't tell you exactly how I will react in a given situation. What, then, do you expect from untrained people?
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