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Which agency is it? WHAT DEPARTMENT?
**UPDATED**
I showed up at the station on Sunday (a calendar day is a calendar day, right?), asked for the Sgt in charge, and waited. And waited. And waited. After a really long time (or until they decided that I really wasnt leaving), an officer called me up and said that he was the Sgt in charge. OK, moving in the right direction.
I outlined the steps that were explained to me, showed proof of following those steps (OK from the DA, OK from the DOJ, etc), and asked for my property.
He said that it doesnt work that way. Surprise, surprise. I informed him that I was not surprised to hear this as each and every person at HIS department had a different interpretation of "how it worked". I continued that, as he was in charge, his version of "how it works" certainly would be correct. Then, with pen in hand, I asked him how to get my firearm back.
Here's the steps;
1. get the OK from the DA - check
2. wait for case to conclude - check
3. get the OK from the DOJ - check
4. go to PD, locate detective that worked the case - WTF?
5. once said detective is located, surrender DOJ letter - WTF?
6. once validity of the letter is confirmed, and my identity confirmed (smells like a wants/warrants check), a "green" letter will be issued to me - WTF?
7. with said "green" letter, go and locate the property room, present letter, cross fingers, and receive what's left of my property.
8. he then stated that, per law, I only have 30 calendar days to recover my property, starting the day the DOJ letter was written - I am aware of this
9. and the best part for last ... "property" is only released Tues, Weds, Thurs between the hours of 12:30-4pm - WTF?
At this point, I informed him that, regardless of his departments policies, I intended to receive my property and as the State provided me a window of 30 calendar days, I expected no less from his department. Using their rules as an example, in this 30 day calendar period, his department only actually releases property for 14 days. What's worse, they only provide a 3-1/2 hr window per day in which to do so.
As I began to articulate what I thought was a solid argument that their policies in effect prohibited citizens from lawfully recovering property and neither complied with the spirit nor the letter of the law as pertains to the return of stolen propery, the Sgt decided to be helpful.
So, tomorrow @ 12:30p, I have an appt with both the Sgt and the Detective (who will have the "green paperwork" completed by then) who will accompany me to the property room and make sure that my property is returned.
While it seems that my stuff will be mine again shortly, I am extremely dissapointed with the departments policies. Had I not been so forceful in my assertation of my rights and their responsibilities, I am positive that I would never see my property again.
I will try to get a written copy of their department policy steps for further reveiw.
I showed up at the station on Sunday (a calendar day is a calendar day, right?), asked for the Sgt in charge, and waited. And waited. And waited. After a really long time (or until they decided that I really wasnt leaving), an officer called me up and said that he was the Sgt in charge. OK, moving in the right direction.
I outlined the steps that were explained to me, showed proof of following those steps (OK from the DA, OK from the DOJ, etc), and asked for my property.
He said that it doesnt work that way. Surprise, surprise. I informed him that I was not surprised to hear this as each and every person at HIS department had a different interpretation of "how it worked". I continued that, as he was in charge, his version of "how it works" certainly would be correct. Then, with pen in hand, I asked him how to get my firearm back.
Here's the steps;
1. get the OK from the DA - check
2. wait for case to conclude - check
3. get the OK from the DOJ - check
4. go to PD, locate detective that worked the case - WTF?
5. once said detective is located, surrender DOJ letter - WTF?
6. once validity of the letter is confirmed, and my identity confirmed (smells like a wants/warrants check), a "green" letter will be issued to me - WTF?
7. with said "green" letter, go and locate the property room, present letter, cross fingers, and receive what's left of my property.
8. he then stated that, per law, I only have 30 calendar days to recover my property, starting the day the DOJ letter was written - I am aware of this
9. and the best part for last ... "property" is only released Tues, Weds, Thurs between the hours of 12:30-4pm - WTF?
At this point, I informed him that, regardless of his departments policies, I intended to receive my property and as the State provided me a window of 30 calendar days, I expected no less from his department. Using their rules as an example, in this 30 day calendar period, his department only actually releases property for 14 days. What's worse, they only provide a 3-1/2 hr window per day in which to do so.
As I began to articulate what I thought was a solid argument that their policies in effect prohibited citizens from lawfully recovering property and neither complied with the spirit nor the letter of the law as pertains to the return of stolen propery, the Sgt decided to be helpful.
So, tomorrow @ 12:30p, I have an appt with both the Sgt and the Detective (who will have the "green paperwork" completed by then) who will accompany me to the property room and make sure that my property is returned.
While it seems that my stuff will be mine again shortly, I am extremely dissapointed with the departments policies. Had I not been so forceful in my assertation of my rights and their responsibilities, I am positive that I would never see my property again.
I will try to get a written copy of their department policy steps for further reveiw.
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