Secession and the State of Jefferson

[Knight]

Removed

The Mexican Mafia is more like an outside organization that has come up here to take advantage of the favorable political - and literal - climate. They certainly don't make up even a majority of the growers. In fact, the feds hit them pretty hard this year, though they were not even close to being wiped out.

[Gator Monroe]

Bigotry = Welcome to my Ignore List.

You would not think Bigotry if you had to worry about them (Armed Mexican Nationals) as we do Here in Ultra Rural Eastern Shasta County so stay a Dupe and cry Bigotry ...

[AaronHorrocks]

I don't think they want to screw up the rounded number of 50 states. We'd mess up the flag, man.

I thought there were 57 states!

[Kestryll]

...so stay a Dupe and cry Bigotry ...

So how about I tell you it's bigoted, comes off as racist and is gone?

Stay above board or don't cry when you're gone.

[Gator Monroe]

So how about I tell you it's bigoted, comes off as racist and is gone?

Stay above board or don't cry when you're gone.

So how bout I tell you about my last and only hike up Little Cow creek (less tha 5 mile hike from my house and the 3 armed (Shotgun & levergun ) Mexican looking guys (but they could have been from costa rica guys) watching me as I played through (Pressed on with my hike) pretending I did not see them ... (But watching the Helos carry away their goods after someone dropped a dime on them made me feel a little better but I was skeeerd at the time of the hike because I ONLY HAD A .25 MOUSE GUN ON ME

[Gator Monroe]

And how summer before last WE (Boaters at Whiskeytown lake) were warned to stay close to any shoreline when we beached our boats because of the Armed Mexican Nationals Growing IN the Park AROUND THE LAKE ... It's bad here in my beautiful Shasta County and I'm voicing my desire to not let it get any worse ... and Latino folks move here and live and work real jobs as they do anywhere else but the Illegals and their Pot operations are affecting the safety and enjoyment of our outdoors here in Shasta County !

[Kestryll]

How about you just quit making foolish blanket statements equating an ehtire race of people to drug dealing?

Wasn't that simple?

[Meplat]

Alturas used to be my dream town. But then they got a stoplight.

As far as I am concerned you can have Alturas for free!!!!

[adamsreeftank]

I'm trying to think of what happened the last time someone wanted to secede... Hmm. All I can come up with is the Civil War.


Do you really think Arnold would let the North go peacefully?


This thread reminds me of one along time ago about having everone move to a small northern town and vote a friendly sherrif into office.


We would have better luck buying a small island and declaring it a new country.

[trashman]

A few square blocks in Silicon Valley can generate more revenue and tax income than 1000 sq mi of North Norcal.

It's not my drug of choice (single malts and big red wines are) but it does make me think a case can be made that decriminalizing marijuana (and subsequently taxing/regulating its production a la alcohol) would provide a whooooole lotta tax revenue in a very short time.

I posit that it also might create such a substantial stream of revenue for legal producers that they wouldn't jeopardize their status by continuing to manufacture or deal in other drugs (namely, meth).

Leave it to employers to decide whether or not it impacts on the job performance.

--Neill

[trashman]

We would have better luck buying a small island and declaring it a new country.

I think that's about the scale of things, yes. Dramatic strokes may be desired but the reality is that progress comes through a lot of slogging and out-working our competition.

--Neill

[383green]

I'm trying to think of what happened the last time someone wanted to secede... Hmm. All I can come up with is the Civil War.

That was a group of states trying to leave the union. What is being discussed here is the formation of a new state under laws which allow for this to be done. It's an entirely different situation. It's still not likely to happen, but it has nothing in common with the secession that led to the Civil War.

[Telperion]

I'm trying to think of what happened the last time someone wanted to secede... Hmm. All I can come up with is the Civil War.


Do you really think Arnold would let the North go peacefully?

I'm wondering whether the Soviet Union and greater Eastern Block of the late '80s are a more appropriate analogy than the United States of the 1860s. Faced with unresolvable fiscal issues and divergent geographical interests, the only solution to maintain sovereignty was for Moscow to let the republics go their own way.

The annual game of chicken over the budget and the continuous catfights of regional special interests are really pushing this state in the same ungovernable direction.