DC Adopts CA AW Ban, CA Roster

[hoffmang]

All,

Here is an actual copy of the legislation DC adopted yesterday:

http://www.dccouncil.us/images/00001/20081210115303.pdf

It is almost a cut and paste from our laws and it refers specifically to the unsafe roster run by California.

This can only count as excellent news. We will be able to challenge CA's laws in Federal Court absent incorporation issues. This is breaking so I can't speculate on timing or next steps but I am excited!

Please read closely and post thoughts. Note that Harrot doesn't apply to DC directly so there is new "series" language federally. However, Harrot should be instructive and Janice Rogers Brown (author of Harrot) serves on the DC Circuit...

-Gene

[JeffM]

All,

Here is an actual copy of the legislation DC adopted yesterday:

http://www.dccouncil.us/images/00001/20081210115303.pdf

It is almost a cut and paste from our laws and it refers specifically to the unsafe roster run by California.

This can only count as excellent news. We will be able to challenge CA's laws in Federal Court absent incorporation issues. This is breaking so I can't speculate on timing or next steps but I am excited!

Please read closely and post thoughts. Note that Harrot doesn't apply to DC directly so there is new "series" language federally. However, Harrot should be instructive and Janice Rogers Brown (author of Harrot) serves on the DC Circuit...

-Gene

Hmmmmm.... sounds interesting.

Tagged for further reading.

[Dr Rockso]

[Hopi]

They must not read Calguns.net......

[bwiese]

Let's NeRF DC!

We need to get some M1919s in there too.

And I think Staples can kill AW ban there.

[bwiese]

I would also advise not commenting on workarounds to DC law publicly here.

Anything we figure out here will likely make it into law before enacted - given who reads Calguns.

Let's let them make bad (attackable) law.

Alan Gura will be eating well at the Capitol Grille.

[1064chubbs]

This is going to get interesting.

[sorensen440]

I would also advise not commenting on workarounds to DC law publicly here.

Anything we figure out here will likely make it into law before enacted - given who reads Calguns.

Let's let them make bad (attackable) law.

Alan Gura will be eating well at the Capitol Grille.

agreed

[caduckgunner]

Tag for later

[383green]

Here are my thoughts, based on a quick first reading. Please let me know if I state anything that is better left un-written in a public forum at this time.

1) The AW portion uses the "series" language that has already been nerfed by Harrott. These guys don't do their homework, do they?

2) I did not find a definition of "detachable magazine". This seems to have interesting implications, though I don't know whether they're good or bad.

3) Microstamping is required for any gun sold after 2011, and I didn't see any contingencies for availability or patent-encumbrance of the technology. If the manufacturers don't want to play the microstamping game (I do not know whether any offer it or plan to offer it), this this is a de-facto ban on handgun purchases after 2011. These DC guys sure make our job easy!

4) While the CA roster is borrowed (I guess they want to let the Great State of California shoulder the cost and responsibility for vetting guns for them), the language also bans possession of non-rostered guns that were not purchased prior to 2009. Combined with the microstamping terms, the DC legislature has effectively painted a giant target on their (presumably giant) collective rump.


My predictions based on this first reading:

1) The flames in which this law will go down are likely to be of epic proportion.

2) Mr. Gura will need to make some tough decisions regarding the paint scheme for his new private jet.


And finally, I have questions for Gene:

1) How does getting to fight portions of the CA law text in federal court help us in CA? It seems to me that they don't directly influence us here prior to incorporation, but getting to start the fight now in DC gives us a head start and provides an entertaining way to pass the time while waiting for an incorporation ruling.

2) Is this part of the promised "two weeks" package, or is this a surprise gift?

[aileron]

Interesting...

“(e) The Chief shall register no more than one pistol per registrant during any 30-day period; provided that the Chief may permit a person first becoming a District resident to register more than one pistol if those pistols were lawfully owned in another jurisdiction for a period of six months prior to the date of the application”..

How is it possible that they can bar you from bringing in your lawfully acquired possessions because you haven't owned them long enough to satisfy their standards?

How are you suppose to prove it?

So does this also mean if you lost the receipt of a handgun you bought 20 years ago, or even 5 years ago, or last year... you SOL? What if it was a PPT? Or a hand me down from Gramps, or dear ol' dad?

[mow]

I wonder if DC paid CA . . . CA laws are copyrighted y'know.

[bwiese]

I wonder if DC paid CA . . . CA laws are copywritten y'know.

The term is copyrighted

[CCWFacts]

That's cool! I'm so glad the city of DC is so eager to support the NRA and Mr. Gura.

[CHS]

*snicker*

I really do wonder what color Gura's jet is going to be. What if he gets three of them?