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  • #16
    nick
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2008
    • 19143

    Originally posted by hawk1
    Come on this is reply such bull****.
    What part of 'they don't listen to the people' do you not understand?

    Example, Wall Street bailout. They heard 'the people' and they still passed it.

    Stop with the if they hear from 'the people' crap...
    Umm, somebody votes for them?
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    • #17
      dwa
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 2452

      they should rename DC Gura City hes goona own the whole place soon enough
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      • #18
        rayra
        Banned
        • Mar 2006
        • 1747

        Obviously the turds in DC sat down after their defeats to obstruct on type, action, brand, length et al and 'brainstormed' about ways that would still massively obstruct legal firearm ownership in DC without running afoul of Heller's overall ruling on the nature of the second and on 'commonly used'.
        They've instead chosen to erect more hurdles along the lines of the dearth of FFLs in DC - forming chokepoints to ownership that attempt to make it as burdensome as possible to comply with, so decent folks just don't make the effort.
        This sort of malfeasance in office, this sort of ideological fascism masquerading as 'public safety' ought to be vigorously met with tar & feathers, at a minimum.

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        • #19
          jacques
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 2478

          Isn't it frustrating. They are behaving like little children.

          Originally posted by rayra
          Obviously the turds in DC sat down after their defeats to obstruct on type, action, brand, length et al and 'brainstormed' about ways that would still massively obstruct legal firearm ownership in DC without running afoul of Heller's overall ruling on the nature of the second and on 'commonly used'.
          They've instead chosen to erect more hurdles along the lines of the dearth of FFLs in DC - forming chokepoints to ownership that attempt to make it as burdensome as possible to comply with, so decent folks just don't make the effort.
          This sort of malfeasance in office, this sort of ideological fascism masquerading as 'public safety' ought to be vigorously met with tar & feathers, at a minimum.

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          • #20
            Window_Seat
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 3533

            Originally posted by N6ATF
            Fixed.

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            • #21
              99sparks
              Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 111

              reasonable
              "WARNING: Securing your firearm may inhibit access to it in a defense situation and result in injury or death."

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              • #22
                hawk1
                In Memoriam
                • Dec 2005
                • 7555

                Originally posted by nick
                Umm, somebody votes for them?
                Sure they do. We have plenty here at Calguns that vote the same way.
                More people everyday voting to fill their pockets first, then for other reasons second.
                It's only going to get worse.
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                • #23
                  Vectrexer
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 2473

                  Well, I am sure this is going to piss some people off but,,,, I have have to say that I agree in spirit with the idea of requiring training and some range time before gun ownership.

                  I do not agree with registration of the gun every three years. Once the gun is registered that should be it until the gun is sold. Even then a sale and a letter of notice of non-ownership should be voluntary. More of a CYA than a requirement.


                  Nor should a background check be required every six years. Once your name is associated with the pistol then other problems in your life should automatically reveal any legal issues. And really folks, do you think automated search processes don't already run on you?


                  The D.C. regulation (like all regulations) has an acorn of good intent with a whole tree of bad issues. Other bad issues like require photos along with the registration and a whole host of other regulations and restrictions that make the Kali regulations and restrictions seem tame in comparison.

                  Back to the training issue for te second. I seriously doubt D.C. will allow training on ranges that allow outside of D.C. to count towards the requirement. Yet another way to allow (but not allow) firearms access by the common citizen.

                  So I have to say I am against just about anything that D.C. has to offer int he way of "protecting the public from itself."
                  Last edited by Vectrexer; 12-17-2008, 9:09 AM.
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                  • #24
                    The Director
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2769

                    One of the mechanisms of a police state is to turn your rights into privileges, then make you jump through hoops to obtain those privileges.

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                    • #25
                      hill billy
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 2890

                      Originally posted by Vectrexer
                      Well, I am sure this is going to piss some people off but,,,, I have have to say that I agree in spirit with the idea of requiring training and some range time before gun ownership.
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                      • #26
                        nooner
                        Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 184

                        Originally posted by Vectrexer
                        Well, I am sure this is going to piss some people off but,,,, I have have to say that I agree in spirit with the idea of requiring training and some range time before gun ownership.
                        Training isn't required to exercise your freedom of speech.

                        Liberty is not about what you feel safe with. Freedom has consequences both good and bad. You have to take one with the other, you can't pick and choose AND remain free.

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                        • #27
                          tcrpe
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 10269

                          Originally posted by Ding126

                          In September, the council voted to allow residents to own most semiautomatic pistols, but banned magazines capable of firing more than 10 rounds of ammunition.

                          That's might generous of them . . . . .
                          Originally posted by SilverTauron
                          Considering the facts of how easily safes can be defeated, a park bench offers the same amount of protection.
                          Originally posted by loose_electron
                          PE card? LOL! Any green kid out of engineering school can get that with a few years of experience.

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                          • #28
                            CHS
                            Moderator Emeritus
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 11338

                            Originally posted by 99sparks
                            Is this what the “other side” calls “reasonable” gun controls?
                            No no.. Those aren't "reasonable", they're "common sense"!
                            Please read the Calguns Wiki
                            Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                            --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                            • #29
                              alex00
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 839

                              Originally posted by Vectrexer
                              Well, I am sure this is going to piss some people off but,,,, I have have to say that I agree in spirit with the idea of requiring training and some range time before gun ownership.
                              I whole-heartedly disagree with this. Training should not be required to exercise a fundamental right. What's next, require formal debate training before we can speak out against the government? Should we be forced to study case law before we are protected from unlawful search and seizure? Requiring training is an infringement upon a right. What if someone fails training? Do we get to deny them the right?

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                              • #30
                                bulgron
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 2783

                                Originally posted by alex00
                                I whole-heartedly disagree with this. Training should not be required to exercise a fundamental right. What's next, require formal debate training before we can speak out against the government? Should we be forced to study case law before we are protected from unlawful search and seizure? Requiring training is an infringement upon a right. What if someone fails training? Do we get to deny them the right?
                                You're ignoring the potential collision of two rights: the right to bear arms in self defense, and the right to remain healthy and alive. If someone exercises the first right irresponsibly, they can easily interfere with someone else's enjoyment of the second.

                                Not even the founding fathers thought people should be walking around with guns without having some clue on how they work, and how to use them safely.

                                It would be better for everyone if fathers just taught their children how to use guns. But we can't rely on that anymore. What I'd like to see is our public and private schools being required to ensure children know how to use firearms responsibly before allowing them to graduate. (Kids should be able to "test out" of the class if they receive instruction from someplace other than the school.) That way, we could eliminate the need for training requirements, and therefore for licensing requirements entirely.
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