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  • artherd
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 5038

    "threaded barrel" on a pistol in CA.

    Do we have any opinions on what must be done to a 'threaded barrel' on a handgun in CA to render it no longer threaded?

    Pinned & welded? Silver solder? thread protector and set screw/epoxy? Red locktite?

    What's the standard - if any. Refresh me.
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  • #2
    aileron
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3272

    I really want an answer to this myself.

    I have held off buying a .460 Rowland kit for my Kimber. Even though Clark agreed to pin and weld the compensator to the threaded barrel so its permanent.

    I fear I might be breaking the law, even though tons of welded compensator's are in the state.
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    • #3
      artherd
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 5038

      remember - threaded barrel is a feature ONLY on handguns.

      On rifles it's perfectly OK.
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      • #4
        AJAX22
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2006
        • 14980

        So far CA seems to be ok with measures far less stringent than those enforced by the BATFE. (in the case of the walther 22, all they used was a hard to grip bushing with loctite, and that was the 'official' compliance meathod as performed by walther)

        pinning, welding, or soddering ALL are much stronger more effective ways of rendering a muzzle device permenantly attached... so it seems resonable to state that anything which meets federal guidelines should be more than adequate for CA standards.

        Aditionally, remember that it is only the barrel which cannot be threaded, threaded trunnions (in the case of Uzi's) or barrel bushings (in the case of 1911's) or threaded receivers (in the case of kommandos) are all perfectly acceptable.
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        • #5
          bwiese
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2005
          • 27611

          The Walther P22 mods required due to the DOJ fiasco involved just expoxying the sleeve over the threaded bbl.

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          • #6
            yellowfin
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2007
            • 8371

            Did anyone ever ask for clarification as to why they're on such a witch hunt against threaded pistol barrels? Did one of them get beaten with a suppressor as a child or something? Geez, I know it's really kooky here, but cmon, this irrational persecution of a metal tube that makes things less annoying for other people at the range is ridiculous.
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            • #7
              CHS
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              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2008
              • 11338

              Originally posted by yellowfin2
              Did anyone ever ask for clarification as to why they're on such a witch hunt against threaded pistol barrels? Did one of them get beaten with a suppressor as a child or something? Geez, I know it's really kooky here, but cmon, this irrational persecution of a metal tube that makes things less annoying for other people at the range is ridiculous.
              Look, stop making sense here. Ok. Suppressors are evil evil things which are ILLEGAL in california. Don't you get that? Since they are almost non-existent and illegal here, there is NO REASON on earth that you should EVER have a threaded barrel on your pistol. NO REASON!! Therefore threaded pistol barrels should just be plain illegal!

              /sarcasm....
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              • #8
                The Wingnut
                CGN Contributor
                • Nov 2008
                • 2913

                They've watched too many hokey movies in which Mr. Bad-@$$ assassin uses a pistol with a supressor that goes 'THEWMP' to poke a hole in somebody's brain.

                Evil, evil suppressors. Don't you know, only bad guys use them to kill people. </sarcasm>
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                • #9
                  hawk1
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                  • Dec 2005
                  • 7555

                  Originally posted by yellowfin2
                  Did anyone ever ask for clarification as to why they're on such a witch hunt against threaded pistol barrels? Did one of them get beaten with a suppressor as a child or something? Geez, I know it's really kooky here, but cmon, this irrational persecution of a metal tube that makes things less annoying for other people at the range is ridiculous.
                  Gosh sakes man, think of the children...They may want one too...
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                  • #10
                    bohoki
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 20734

                    do you have a belt sander?

                    step one place threaded section on running belt
                    step 2 rotate slowly
                    step 3 repeat till thread is gone

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                    • #11
                      Hopi
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 7700

                      Originally posted by artherd
                      remember - threaded barrel is a feature ONLY on handguns.

                      On rifles it's perfectly OK.
                      Is this applicable to fixed-mag or non-semi-auto handguns as well?

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                      • #12
                        gravedigger
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 2015

                        Originally posted by AJAX22
                        ... so it seems reasonable to state that anything which meets federal guidelines should be more than adequate for CA standards.
                        LOL! So, you've never really LIVED in California I see!

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                        • #13
                          gravedigger
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 2015

                          Originally posted by bdsmchs
                          Look, stop making sense here. Ok. Suppressors are evil evil things which are ILLEGAL in california. Don't you get that?
                          I figured it out! The "Silencer" was made popular in the old "Get Smart" TV show, with honorable mention to "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." which also employed "silencers."

                          Since the entire agenda of liberals is to PREVENT people from getting SMART, they have banned anything associated with the programs! That's it!

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                          • #14
                            ke6guj
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                            • Nov 2003
                            • 23725

                            Originally posted by Hopi
                            Is this applicable to fixed-mag or non-semi-auto handguns as well?
                            AFAIK, only for semi-auto handguns with detachable magazine, fixed-mag and non-semis would be exempt from that.


                            12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:

                            (4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

                            (A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
                            (B) A second handgrip.
                            (C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
                            (D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
                            (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
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                            • #15
                              Hopi
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 7700

                              Originally posted by ke6guj
                              AFAIK, only for semi-auto handguns with detachable magazine, fixed-mag and non-semis would be exempt from that.
                              That's how I understood it. Thanks!

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