California State Parks

[Glock22Fan]

As I understand it this is all in unincorporated Los Angeles City and County. Wouldn't it then be perfectly legal to Open Carry a loaded gun? as it is in other unincorporated areas?

I believe that Los Angeles County has local ordinances that prohibit loaded OC in unincorporated areas unless you are in a place where it is legal for you to discharge your weapon (such as the areas open for hunting).

[Decoligny]

I believe that Los Angeles County has local ordinances that prohibit loaded OC in unincorporated areas unless you are in a place where it is legal for you to discharge your weapon (such as the areas open for hunting).

CA PC 12031 already says exactly what you say above.
Loaded OC in unincorporated territory is illegal where you are prohibited by law from disharging a firearm.

[MadMex]

Yes, only cops and ccw holders.

BS. The BGs will carry anytime and anywhere they want.

[JDay]

CCW is permitted in CA State Parks.



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Thats nice, if you can get one.

[JDay]

Are you serious? I knew about federal parks, but thought I heard state parks didn't allow it. I'm going to go to Konocti Harbor near Clear Lake on 1/1/09 to go shooting with some friends and family and I had just assumed LOC was the only option. Heck, i might try out my new belly band and CCW a little! I'd love to see a citation if there is one.

What does that have to do with State Parks? At least I hope you're not going shooting in a State Park.

[Doheny]

Thats nice, if you can get one.

I've got one.

[GuyW]

I'm talking about Open Carry either loaded in unincorporated ......or in incorporated parts of the city.

...As I understand it this is all in unincorporated Los Angeles City and County.

"City" means "INCORPORATED as a municipal corporation".

"UNincorporated" means territory that is NOT within the boundaries of a City (ie, solely County jurisdiction).

City = incorporated.

Incorporated = City.

Capiche?
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[fairfaxjim]

Ok, I and many friends and some family will be headed to Boggs Mountain Demonstration State Forest on 1/1/09. We're going to shoot, and shoot lots. We'll be LOCing (150yds from any dwelling or road) handguns and carrying longguns up to designated shooting areas and such.

After reading CCR 4313 I'm confused since it contradicts what I thought I read from the BMDF sight that they allow shooting for hunting and targets.

But then, about ccr 4313, I'm noticing this wording and wondering what it means? What's a "unit?"

in or into any portion of any unit

Does that mean a dwelling? A unit of parkland?

Also, if anyone knows, please tell me if there's any new laws beginning 1/1/09 that I should know about in state parks like this. Also, has anyone been up there? It's just West of Middletown, CA near Clear Lake.

Boggs Mtn. is not part of the CA State Parks, it is owned by Cal Fire (formerly CA Division of Forestry), CCR 4313 doesn't apply.

A div. in CA state parks is essentially each park or park management district where multiple parks are under one managing ranger.

[BigDogatPlay]

Unless you are a peace officer or hold a valid California CCW do not bring a firearm into any California State Park under any circumstance. State Park peace officers (aka Rangers) will seize your firearm(s) and you'll more than likely be arrested. I'm close to several SPPO's and the department's stance, as per the CCR, on possessing / carrying firearms is pretty clear. I can't think of a single place owned or managed by DPR where firearms or shooting is okay.

A park unit is the smallest division of a larger park management district as noted in #23 above. In Marin County, Mt. Tam SP, Samuel P. Taylor SP and China Camp SP are all park units within the larger Marin district.

[Vacaville]

One time a few years back I took my Crossman pellet pistol with me camping on Mt. Diablo, a state park. Rangers came into our camp and saw the butt of the gun sticking out of my backpack. They freaked out over me having a weapon, detained us for about an hour, and then kicked us out of the park. Funny thing is they were willing to give me back my pellet gun as we were leaving.