Video doesn't lie

[Creampuff]

Did anyone see this video-doesn't-lie posting on THR? If you scroll to the middle or bottom you can see the 2nd perspective. This would make me think twice if I were ever placed on a jury that was dependent on video evidence.

http://patterico.com/2006/06/08/4661/the-video-doesnt-lie-right/

[megavolt121]

Wow, I can't believe they shot him 10 times. Was he doped up or was the cop just a bad shot?

[tman]

Looked like a murder to me.

[Creampuff]

Looked like a murder to me.

That's what I thought at first, but take a look at the 2nd and 3rd video.

[kenc9]

As soon as that guy got out with that gun he would have been dead if I were the LEO. Those two cops need training, the cop to the right had a pistol pointed at him twice and failed to shoot.

-ken

[bodyarmorguy27]

Lag time is a problem. It takes a couple seconds for you to see the threat, make a decision, and react to the threat. It's not as easy as it sounds. I have been there twice before. Some call it the "window". It opens and closes really fast.

I won't criticize their actions because I wasn't there.

[Apeman88]

Before I saw the video... I thought... oh great... another dumb ****** cop shot some innocent guy again... but the video doesn't lie... with the 2nd video... the shooting is completely justified... cops gave the dumb ****** bg plenty of time to stop... ya... I would of shot the guy the first time he pointed a gun (or a cell phone that looked like a guy) at me. Thumbs up for the cops... at least this time.

Maybe the reason the cops waited to shoot the bg was becuase of liquor store in the back ground? but then it looks like the first shot the cop took, if missed, would of hit the store dead center.

Ken

[megavolt121]

As soon as that guy got out with that gun he would have been dead if I were the LEO. Those two cops need training, the cop to the right had a pistol pointed at him twice and failed to shoot.

-ken

I'm glad you aren't a cop. Look again at the second video. The cop that shot never had a "gun" pointed at him. I've seen this case before somewhere else, and IIRC, the guy was holding a cellphone. Considering the situation, I think the cop did a perfectly good job. He assessed the situation and attempted control it without use of deadly force. When all else failed, that's when he shot.

[magmaster]

But they left out the other part of the story where the guy knocked off a liguor store before that. He had used a gun in the crime and they assumed he was armed, what they thought was a gun was a cell phone. In that kind of situation its tough and I think the LE did the right thing. The guy was a criminal nonethless.

Also a good video showing the need for a .45 because the 9mm were doing nothing to him.

[xrMike]

After seeing the 2nd vid, that sure looks like "suicide by cop" to me...

[VeryCoolCat]

Why can't officers shoot people who run.... the brazilians do it.

If your running, the cops should be gunning.

Nobody runs unless they're very drugged or having some reason to run.

[tcrpe]

Looked like a murder to me.

You just proved his point.

[vonsmith]

Okay, I'm not a professional, but... Sitting here in my comfy chair I assess that I would have fired the first time the dirtbag pointed what appeared to be a gun at my partner or myself.

I don't want to encourage "gun happy" cops, but geez. I wonder how many cops are not going to make it to retirement being a little too gun shy? Our PC and litigation prone society has made it tough on LE.


=vonsmith=

[AW-FANATIC]

Why can't officers shoot people who run.... the brazilians do it.

If your running, the cops should be gunning.

Nobody runs unless they're very drugged or having some reason to run.

I agree. If your not complying with the orders of LE to stop with their guns drawn you should be shot period. Im sick of hearing about idiots attempting to fight with LEOs and getting shot in the process then listening to their families talk about how its the cops fault, their son was a good boy.

[Diabolus]

I agree. If your not complying with the orders of LE to stop with their guns drawn you should be shot period. Im sick of hearing about idiots attempting to fight with LEOs and getting shot in the process then listening to their families talk about how its the cops fault, their son was a good boy.

Thank god we don't live in a country that shoots people if they run away from cops.