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  • #16
    skateboarder74
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 301

    I think shooting himself should be punishment enough
    "It is better to have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it." ---Clarence Worley ...

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    • #17
      RobG
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 4887

      Originally posted by Colt
      How do you ND a Glock? Seems to me finger (or something) pretty much has to contact trigger. So, why handle it in the club? Was it carried loose in pocket? Did I miss some details?

      Whole story seems to missing some info...
      Apparently he had it tucked in waist band (mexican carry) and after it started to slip down his leg he attempted to slide it back up the pant leg and BAM!
      He should have found someone in the club "professional enough......"

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      • #18
        yellowfin
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2007
        • 8371

        Originally posted by IPSICK
        http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28004631/

        Unfortunately these are the kind articles we'll see from this event.
        It wouldn't be as much of a problem if the people in the press lived in areas where carry is more common so they wouldn't think it to be so out of the norm.
        "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
        Originally posted by indiandave
        In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
        Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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        • #19
          56Chevy
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 1872

          He also got a lot of people at a New York hospital in serious trouble by convincing them not to report the shooting, as required by law.
          Why do we even have such laws? It seems that ANYTHING involving a gun is considered the worst thing in the world.

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          • #20
            nicki
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 4208

            Potential to fund our cases.

            Guys,

            If any of you haved access to anyone in the NFL, players union would be a good start, now is the time to be calling in favors.

            Yes, he made a stupid mistake, I think he's learned enough.

            Bottom line is Mayor Mike wants to make a example out of him, that means no deals.

            Already Heller has struck in 2 gun cases with favorable results in New York State.

            Mayor Mike wants to put him away for 3.5 years, Burress has two choices, fight or surrender.

            His lawyers won't be able to cut deals with the DA, too high profile, but they will be able to mount a defense.

            Here we have a potential for a 2nd, 9th and 14th amendment defense against NYC's Sullivan law.

            Our CCW law is very similar to NYC's, but unlike NY, we have PRA's.

            Why is it important. Because Burresses legal team can access the CCW data and document patterns of abuse here in Cal.

            From that, they can reasonably plead with a Judge for massive discovery not only of NYC's pistol permit system, but the whole NY State ccw system.

            Burress has the funds for such a lawsuit and if he doesn't, he has friends with deep pockets.

            The best start would probably be the NFL players union. If anyone has contacts with someone in the players union in the SF Bay area and can get access, I beg of you to follow up on it.

            If you don't know what to say, ask people on this board for help or send me a PM.

            We got alot of talented people here and I am sure we could put together a good team to talk with a NFL Player Union rep.

            I'm not ruling out the owners, if they are open so I am.

            Considering that most of the country is Pro Gun, Burress can turn this from just a gun issue, into a civil rights issue.

            Nicki

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            • #21
              Mulay El Raisuli
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 3613

              Originally posted by nicki
              Guys,

              If any of you haved access to anyone in the NFL, players union would be a good start, now is the time to be calling in favors.

              Yes, he made a stupid mistake, I think he's learned enough.

              Bottom line is Mayor Mike wants to make a example out of him, that means no deals.

              Already Heller has struck in 2 gun cases with favorable results in New York State.

              Mayor Mike wants to put him away for 3.5 years, Burress has two choices, fight or surrender.

              His lawyers won't be able to cut deals with the DA, too high profile, but they will be able to mount a defense.

              Here we have a potential for a 2nd, 9th and 14th amendment defense against NYC's Sullivan law.

              Our CCW law is very similar to NYC's, but unlike NY, we have PRA's.

              Why is it important. Because Burresses legal team can access the CCW data and document patterns of abuse here in Cal.

              From that, they can reasonably plead with a Judge for massive discovery not only of NYC's pistol permit system, but the whole NY State ccw system.

              Burress has the funds for such a lawsuit and if he doesn't, he has friends with deep pockets.

              The best start would probably be the NFL players union. If anyone has contacts with someone in the players union in the SF Bay area and can get access, I beg of you to follow up on it.

              If you don't know what to say, ask people on this board for help or send me a PM.

              We got alot of talented people here and I am sure we could put together a good team to talk with a NFL Player Union rep.

              I'm not ruling out the owners, if they are open so I am.

              Considering that most of the country is Pro Gun, Burress can turn this from just a gun issue, into a civil rights issue.

              Nicki

              ABSOLUTELY! This is exactly the kind of case of I have written about before (the "I feel the need" thread, for instance). IE; one that practically screams "INCORPORATE THE 14TH & DO IT NOW!"

              Better, here we have a criminal defendant who isn't a sleazeball. One who rates as a "sympathetic" (to the vast majority of people) defendant. And best of all, one with LOTS of money! Which means he can afford to hire all of the "right" lawyers.

              There being no real defense to the charges themselves, at least as I far as I can see, the only real defense is to attack the law itself. Pre-trial Motions arguing HELLER, Incorporation & the data you suggest would do just that & move thru the system VERY quickly. Not only could SULLIVAN go bye-bye, it could go before the summer.

              The Raisuli
              "Ignorance is a steep hill with perilous rocks at the bottom"

              WTB: 9mm cylinder for Taurus Mod. 85

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