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  • rp55
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2009
    • 1823

    Was AB 96 overlooked?

    I am a regular reader of this forum and have not seen anything about AB 96 - the "Ivory Ban" bill.

    This morning the San Jose Mercury News informs me that, "In June, the bill passed the Assembly by a 62-14 vote. A final vote in the state Senate is expected this week. If it passes, it will go to Gov. Jerry Brown's desk."

    I searched the forum and the CA bill thread for Ivory and all permutations of ab 96 and found nothing.

    The article mentions the NRA opposes and quoted Sam Paredes, of Gun Owners of California, who also opposes. Had it been mentioned here or merely overlooked?

    The Merc says that under the law as "owners of ivory would be given until July 1, 2016, to sell it. After that, sales would be a misdemeanor with fines of up to $50,000 and a year in jail." There are no exemptions for any weapons, just some musical instruments.

    I collect antique firearms and have owned firearms with (legal pre-ban) ivory grips. At present I only own one (Colt SAA), I don't feel like selling it now to avoid the ban and would have written in opposition to the bill had I known about it. My daughter possesses a walking stick with ivory handles that has been in her mother's family since the 18th century.

    Maybe I will do something similar to what the San Francisco restaurants have done to skirt the ban on the sale of foie gras; find some old correct grips, put them on the gun and offer it for sale as is with a "free" pair of ivory grips on the side.
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    ronlglock
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2011
    • 2670

    The NRA, CRPA, and others are all over this one. I have a piano with ivory keys that I would not be able to sell. Geez!!
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    • #3
      RRangel
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 5164

      No kidding. These dummies never care about the consequences. Antique shops all over the state will have issues.

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      • #4
        readysetgo
        CGSSA Coordinator
        • Aug 2011
        • 8689

        AB-96 (Atkins) - Animal parts and products: importation or sale of ivory and rhinoceros horn.

        July 2nd article by NRA-ILA: California: Extreme Ivory Ban Bill Scheduled to be heard Monday, July 6

        Another showing NRA was alerting as early as March of this year: California: Committee Hearing Scheduled on a Bill to Ban the Sale and Possession of Legally-Owned Ivory

        CRPA has been alerting along with the other general gun control bills all year.

        There is movement Federally as well and more info can be found @ http://www.kniferights.org/
        Last edited by readysetgo; 08-31-2015, 3:58 PM.
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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44633

          The keyword search some of us use looks for 'gun', 'firearm', 'rifle', 'pistol', 'ammunition' and such - none of those appear in AB 96.
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #6
            RRangel
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 5164

            There were definitely email alerts on this. The least people should do is subscribe.

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            • #7
              Rob7.62
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 523

              This is crazy! There's a lot of people who have very old family heirlooms that contain ivory but our state legislature obviously is disconnected from reality in their utopian bubble in Sacramento. Hopefully Brown has a moment of common sense and rejects this.

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              • #8
                1911su16b870
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Dec 2006
                • 7654

                Every pool cue with an ivory ferrule would be illegal to sell...sheeesh...
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                • #9
                  Cactus_Tim
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1359

                  I'm concerned about Native Alaskan art and crafts.
                  They use walrus and mammoth ivory.
                  Several Eskimos have spoken to me about helping sell some of their artwork.
                  It would be impossible for me to help them.
                  Seems this bill would discriminate against the native Eskimos of Alaska.

                  Last edited by Cactus_Tim; 09-01-2015, 5:20 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Felix168
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 501

                    what? i can't sell my ivory chopsticks?!

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                    • #11
                      SWalt
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 8232

                      It must have been the huge amount of ivory imports that happen every year in this state. /sarcasm/

                      It is really unbelievable how this state is run, are there any adults present in our Legislature?
                      ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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