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  • GMONEY
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 1921

    Law Enforcement buying OLL!!!

    I was in a SoCal shop today and saw an Sergeant pick up a Noveske! This is good news as I believe LEO's who are familiar with these shops are familiar with the law!

    = Less Headaches for us!
  • #2
    sorensen440
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2007
    • 8611

    Should have talked to him
    I woudln't be surprised if he were a calgunner
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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    • #3
      bwiese
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2005
      • 27621

      There are many LEOs with OLLs.

      Hell, the Aug 2006 regulatory hearing in Sacto was staffed with some CHP officers (probably for 'protection' against apparently 'unruly' gunowners) who managed to draw specific duty due to their interest in OLLs.

      Unfortunately a significant fraction of LEOs buying OLLs appear to be configuring their personal guns as AWs - without dept. letter, without DOJ registration. One FFL witnessed MMGs or BBs being removed in parking lot and replaced with AW configuration and dropped into patrol car trunk.

      Bill Wiese
      San Jose, CA

      CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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      • #4
        Hopi
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 7700

        Originally posted by bwiese

        Unfortunately a significant fraction of LEOs buying OLLs appear to be configuring their personal guns as AWs - without dept. letter, without DOJ registration. One FFL witnessed MMGs or BBs being removed in parking lot and replaced with AW configuration and dropped into patrol car trunk.
        I think that this is not as unfortunate as it may seem.......

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        • #5
          BONECUTTER
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 2263

          I have sold hundreds to LEO's. When I first started selling OLL's and people were on the "are they legal" fence LEO's buying them was about 60+% of my customers.

          I guess they figured they would have more flexibility than most people.

          LBPD, SDSD, OCSD, SAPD,CMPD, FVPD, LAPD, LASD, .....Come to think of it I can't think of any local department who I hav't sold OLL's.

          Just depends on the officer.

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          • #6
            Ironchef
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 2313

            South San Francisco PD has at least 2 cops who are OLL owners, and one is a Calgunner I believe, the other is my sister's boyfriend.
            Fleeing the PRK on 3/8/09!!

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            • #7
              Sam1
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 764

              they still bust us for having OLLs, maybe the staff at these shops should educate them because they probably think they're the only ones who could buy OLLs.

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              • #8
                bwiese
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Oct 2005
                • 27621

                Originally posted by Hopi
                I think that this is not as unfortunate as it may seem.......
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                Bill Wiese
                San Jose, CA

                CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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                No postings of mine here, unless otherwise specifically noted, are
                to be construed as formal or informal positions of the Calguns.Net
                ownership, The Calguns Foundation, Inc. ("CGF"), the NRA, or my
                employer. No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
                legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #9
                  trinydex
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 4720

                  so these department letters that are issued to leos... they are only for duty use?

                  how does an leo get a letter saying they can have a registered assault weapon for duty and personal use (like i believe i remember iggy's letter saying)



                  here's the letter, it's from his lea. so once he stops working for the doj, does this paper expire?
                  Last edited by trinydex; 11-21-2008, 3:41 PM.

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                  • #10
                    JWC6
                    Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 233

                    nearly two years ago at Bright Spot Pawn, I counted at least three LEO's DROSing or picking up OLLs.

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                    • #11
                      jmzhwells
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 1111

                      Some agencies provide AW's for work purposes, and wont write letters. So practice is hard since the dept. doesnt provide very much. Some LEO's are buying the OLL's to train with. 10 rnds at a time isnt very good, but better than nothing, or very little.
                      Originally posted by bohoki
                      oh man i think i threw up in my mouth a little
                      Originally posted by Soldier415
                      My staff is now at 10 beers, and has a tactical red lgt ont it, and is being ttached to me by a single point sling

                      i AM THE WISEST MOST TACTICAL WIZARD

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                      • #12
                        Hopi
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 7700

                        Originally posted by jmzhwells
                        Some agencies provide AW's for work purposes, and wont write letters. So practice is hard since the dept. doesnt provide very much. Some LEO's are buying the OLL's to train with. 10 rnds at a time isnt very good, but better than nothing, or very little.
                        LEOs can legally buy high-caps without a letterhead. It would be my guess that many are using detachable magazine configs, MMG etc (at least those still in legal config).....

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                        • #13
                          jmzhwells
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 1111

                          Originally posted by Hopi
                          LEOs can legally buy high-caps without a letterhead. It would be my guess that many are using detachable magazine configs, MMG etc (at least those still in legal config).....
                          The MMG doesnt really simulate the pistol grip, like the one in the car. But who knows.
                          Originally posted by bohoki
                          oh man i think i threw up in my mouth a little
                          Originally posted by Soldier415
                          My staff is now at 10 beers, and has a tactical red lgt ont it, and is being ttached to me by a single point sling

                          i AM THE WISEST MOST TACTICAL WIZARD

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                          • #14
                            CCWFacts
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2007
                            • 6168

                            Originally posted by Hopi
                            (at least those still in legal config).....
                            I assume they are a lot more relaxed about legal config than non-LEOs. It seems impossible that a LEO would be prosecuted for a non-legal config, unless he was involved in some other serious crimes. There are enough cases of LEOs getting away with non-legal full-auto configurations. I personally encountered a California LEO with his FA gun in Nevada, without having done the 5320.20. I believe non-Federal LEOs have to do the 5320 just like everyone else. He mentioned that he thought it was required but he hadn't bothered to do it.
                            "Weakness is provocative."
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                            • #15
                              Hopi
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 7700

                              Originally posted by CCWFacts
                              I assume they are a lot more relaxed about legal config than non-LEOs. It seems impossible that a LEO would be prosecuted for a non-legal config,
                              Sadly, you'll get no argument from me on these points as I have not an appropriate rebuttal.

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