Finally Called on for OC

[Fire in the Hole]

Not that I know of - IANAL. Stops for 12031e only (no other PC for stop such as traffic/criminal investigation) really only occur due to Open Carrying and really have only been documented by our UOCers here and at opencarry.org.

I think it's past time to test those waters. Maybe next year with Nordyke and 2nd A incorporation behind us.

In my case it was a .22 rifle and a shotgun in a horizontal rack mounted inside the cab of a pu truck, in plain view going down a county road. The guns were completely visible through all the windows, mounted forward of teh rear window. Yes I ran the serial #'s, as I have always done. I've recovered a few stolen ones too. I'm just now hearing that these were 4th amendment violations. It was deemed a good stop. And yes, both were loaded, with rounds in the tubular magazines, chambers empty.

Good thing I'm retired now. All these years I thought I'd done a pretty darn good job out there. Now I'm finding out what a reckless loose cannon on the deck I really was.

[Liberty1]

Good thing I'm retired now. All these years I thought I'd done a pretty darn good job out there. Now I'm finding out what a reckless loose cannon on the deck I really was.

Have you read People vs Knight?

[Fire in the Hole]

Have you read People vs Knight?

Never heard of it. I just tried a Google search, and got Knoght vs Florida, which is a death panalty case. To what do you refer?

[Liberty1]

Never heard of it. I just tried a Google search, and got Knoght vs Florida, which is a death panalty case. To what do you refer?

People v Knight - deals with the inapplicability of 12031 in unincorporated areas.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/californiastatecases/c045858.pdf