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  • Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44626

    Long gun registration in 2014 - NOT guns you already own!

    When AB 809 passed this silliness was pretty well understood, but with our new members, a reminder is needed - questions keep popping up.

    1) The law changed on what information gets passed to the DOJ during DROS; it used to be that long gun information was not submitted and therefore not retained.

    Beginning in Jan 2014, that changes.

    DROS software will be (has been) changed to collect information similar that which is collected for a hand gun.

    2) Intrafamily transfer/OPLAW forms will change to include long gun information in the report.

    3) C&R long guns acquired out of state will have to be reported just as C&R hand guns must be now.

    4) The exception from using an FFL when transferring a long gun 50 years old or older goes away - in 2014, those transfers must use an FFL.

    If you do not do one of the activities in (1)-(4) you need not do anything.

    Here's the way things work:
    When you BUY a gun, the FFL collects the needed information, and submits it to the DOJ via the DROS system.

    In 2013, DROS does NOT collect long gun information.

    In 2014, new DROS software starts, and then detailed information about long guns will be collected and submitted via DROS.

    When you pick up the gun, the detailed info is NOT sent - that happens only when DROS is submitted when you buy the gun.

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    ETA April 8, 2014

    This also affects New Residents, who must register their long guns and their hand guns, and affects intrafamilial transfer or inheritance: the OPLAW form now has places for reporting long guns.
    Last edited by Librarian; 04-08-2014, 7:23 PM.
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    ifilef
    Banned
    • Apr 2008
    • 5665

    Thank you for the heads-up.

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    • #3
      aztecw
      Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 169

      Can someone explain why I should purchase a scar before the end of the year? I understand it will be registered but so are me RAWs and nothing negative has happened with that registration. Plus, I see myself buying more rifles in the years the coming years.
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      • #4
        orlando213187
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 33

        Thanx for clarifying it. New to calguns.

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        • #5
          nick
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          • Aug 2008
          • 19143

          Originally posted by aztecw
          Can someone explain why I should purchase a scar before the end of the year? I understand it will be registered but so are me RAWs and nothing negative has happened with that registration. Plus, I see myself buying more rifles in the years the coming years.
          You mean, other than the taking of the SKS rifles?
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          • #6
            Mudderphudder
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 37

            Has anyone had any clarification on when the deadline for long gun registration becomes effective? Do I have to DROS AND pickup long gun (i.e. after 10 day waiting period) before December 31st? Or do I just have to start the DROS process before December 31st and can pick up the long gun after Jan 1st and not be on the "permanent" registry? Thanks

            Joe

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            • #7
              Librarian
              Admin and Poltergeist
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 44626

              Originally posted by Mudderphudder
              Has anyone had any clarification on when the deadline for long gun registration becomes effective? Do I have to DROS AND pickup long gun (i.e. after 10 day waiting period) before December 31st? Or do I just have to start the DROS process before December 31st and can pick up the long gun after Jan 1st and not be on the "permanent" registry? Thanks

              Joe
              New data collection is at time of DROS; that starts Jan 1 2014.
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              • #8
                Junkie
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 4848

                Is registration required if you build a long arm (for example an AR rifle lower from 80)?
                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
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                • #9
                  Librarian
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                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44626

                  Originally posted by Junkie
                  Is registration required if you build a long arm (for example an AR rifle lower from 80)?
                  Not required unless you were to sell it, but some folks think it's a good idea.
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                  • #10
                    aztecw
                    Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 169

                    Originally posted by nick
                    You mean, other than the taking of the SKS rifles?
                    When was this?

                    Anyone gonna limit themselves from buying an "evil" rifle after the end of the year?
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                    • #11
                      Rofocale
                      Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 285

                      late 90s they banned sks that accept detachable mags. like the norinco SKS-D.

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                      • #12
                        DannyInSoCal
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 8271

                        Originally posted by Librarian
                        When AB 809 passed this silliness was pretty well understood, but with our new members, a reminder is needed - questions keep popping up.

                        1) The law changed on what information gets passed to the DOJ during DROS; it used to be that long gun information was not submitted and therefore not retained.

                        Beginning in Jan 2014, that changes.

                        DROS software will be (has been) changed to collect information similar that which is collected for a hand gun.

                        2) Intrafamily transfer/OPLAW forms will change to include long gun information in the report.

                        3) C&R long guns acquired out of state will have to be reported just as C&R hand guns must be now.

                        4) The exception from using an FFL when transferring a long gun 50 years old or older goes away - in 2014, those transfers must use an FFL.

                        If you do not do one of the activities in (1)-(4) you need not do anything.
                        A question to #3 above:

                        Is this restricting ONLY out of state C&R purchases? Will C&R cash-n-carry person to person transactions still be allowed in CA? Can I still buy a Mosin from my neighbor without DROSing after 1JAN14t?
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                        • #13
                          Junkie
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 4848

                          See number 4.
                          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                          A real live woman is more expensive than a fleshlight. Which would you rather have?

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                          • #14
                            Librarian
                            Admin and Poltergeist
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 44626

                            Originally posted by DannyInSoCal
                            A question to #3 above:

                            Is this restricting ONLY out of state C&R purchases?

                            Will C&R cash-n-carry person to person transactions still be allowed in CA?

                            Can I still buy a Mosin from my neighbor without DROSing after 1JAN14t?
                            Originally posted by Junkie
                            See number 4.
                            Exactly - "4) The exception from using an FFL when transferring a long gun 50 years old or older goes away - in 2014, those transfers must use an FFL." The answers to all of your questions are No.
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                            • #15
                              DannyInSoCal
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 8271

                              Thank you..!! And why wasn't this challenged by the NRA/CGF/etc...?
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