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Peņa v. Cid (Handgun Roster) **CERT DENIED 6-15-2020**

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  • sulla123
    Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 296

    Couldn't agree with you more. The fact that you even have to post that is just ludicrous. How can some people even have that thought? Repress others' rights because I have this investment in blah, blah, blah? Sickening.

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    • sulla123
      Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 296

      Originally posted by Elgindy25
      No its not a matter of what i want or dont want, of course id love it to go away, but i can see there being alot of resistance on its even for pro 2A side, some of you may be ok with it even if you have paid premiums for off roster stuff, but a good portion might not be ok with it.

      And chances are it might be removed for a short window like how the mags and ammo was if this is going to go the same route.
      No. And No. Anyone against the roster being removed for that reason is simply a profiteer, and a boot licker. And no, it wouldn't be for a short window, this would be a supreme court ruling. No stays, no injunctions, done.

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      • Big Lan
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2017
        • 24

        Originally posted by Elgindy25
        The problem i see with the roster going away, for all those spending $1200 on sig p365s and Hk Vp9s and gen 5 glocks etc, if the roster drops, those guns will go down to the used value of whatever it runs anywhere else, and many people in CA have put lots of money into buying all kinds of Off roster stuff in which the values will plummet.
        I've seen similar arguments floated regarding repealing the Hughes amendment and values of full auto guns. I think that anybody who is truly pro-2A, and not just into guns to profiteer, would gladly take a loss in monetary value to take back that freedom. Besides, the risk one takes of losing money is part of that same dangerous freedom we should all be able to enjoy.

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        • exnds
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2018
          • 96

          Originally posted by Elgindy25
          No its not a matter of what i want or dont want, of course id love it to go away, but i can see there being alot of resistance on its even for pro 2A side, some of you may be ok with it even if you have paid premiums for off roster stuff, but a good portion might not be ok with it.

          And chances are it might be removed for a short window like how the mags and ammo was if this is going to go the same route.
          Then it comes down to hedging your bets. If you think there’s a decent chance of SCOTUS tossing the roster, you might want to sell off a few guns while prices are sky high, especially the ones with the highest premiums like a P365 or Legion or Shadow 2. You can buy them back later when prices are the same as everywhere else.

          Personally, I don’t care. I never intended guns to be part of my investment portfolio and I don’t plan on selling any of them.

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          • ocn
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2017
            • 34

            Of course hindsight would be 20/20 if the roster was overturned. When I bought mine there was no belief that it would ever happen. We simply paid a premium for having something at a time when it was difficult to obtain. With that being said, I'll be the first one online buying california deemed "unsafe" handguns if it gets overturned

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            • Wildcat19
              Member
              • Oct 2019
              • 324

              I got my Sig p365 through the CA Family program. $495.
              Member NRA, CRPA, GOA.

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              • The Soup Nazi
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 2455

                Redistributed for 5-28-20 conference.

                Source: https://www.supremecourt.gov/search....ic/18-843.html

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                • riderr
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 6539

                  Originally posted by The Soup Nazi
                  Redistributed for 5-28-20 conference.

                  Source: https://www.supremecourt.gov/search....ic/18-843.html
                  Tired of those games. We need another judge on SCOTUS to replace ... Roberts

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                  • JagerDog
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2011
                    • 13520

                    Originally posted by Elgindy25
                    I meant that just alot of people may look at the removal of the roster as a personal cost and not see the greater good in its removal.

                    Just to be clear i myself am all for it going away, its stupid and should never have been around to start. But California is a big place, i know there are people
                    Who hold dual residency in AZ or NV etc and can buy off roster handguns and sell them here for profit. Or people who have collections of handguns that can rival
                    Some gun shops inventory and a good portion of those handguns have been off roster.

                    I mean for those who have 3 or 5 and take a hit thats not such a big deal, but for those who have for example 15-20 different handguns that are off roster, like alot of colts or higher end newer stuff that people have paid 2-3 times its value on per gun, that is a big chunk of money to lose.

                    This was just meant as something to bring up to watch for, especially now people are marking up on roster stuff nearly double its worth.

                    You all see it on calguns marketplace im sure.
                    Nominated for Olympic Mental Gymnastic Team.

                    Buying out of state for purpose of resale in CA is mostly illegal for one.

                    It's no one else's job to protect your "investment's" value. Should my stocks be protected too?

                    One only "loses $" if they (bought high and) sell. They still have that Colt Python.
                    Last edited by JagerDog; 05-22-2020, 1:32 PM.
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                    • champu
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 1981

                      Originally posted by Elgindy25
                      I meant that just alot of people may look at the removal of the roster as a personal cost and not see the greater good in its removal... ...This was just meant as something to bring up to watch for...

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                      • robertfchew
                        Member
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 263

                        Originally posted by riderr
                        Tired of those games. We need another judge on SCOTUS to replace ... Roberts

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                        • aBrowningfan
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 1475

                          Originally posted by The Soup Nazi
                          Redistributed for 5-28-20 conference.

                          Source: https://www.supremecourt.gov/search....ic/18-843.html
                          Doesn't sound like there is a consensus on a positive outcome if the case is granted cert.

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                          • MEGSDAD
                            Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 393

                            If the Supremes dont slap the roster down and Chiu's pos bill passes we are really and royally screwed.
                            Time to flee this state.

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                            • exnds
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2018
                              • 96

                              Originally posted by The Soup Nazi
                              Redistributed for 5-28-20 conference.

                              Source: https://www.supremecourt.gov/search....ic/18-843.html
                              How many times can they keep kicking that can down the road?
                              Last edited by exnds; 05-22-2020, 6:26 PM.

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                              • Harry Ono
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2018
                                • 965

                                Originally posted by exnds
                                How many times can they keep kicking that can down the road?
                                Who know for now! Perhaps Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg spat up some blood recently so they tabled it until she come back from another round of surgery.
                                Once she kicks the bucket it will go our way for sure.

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