9th Circuit Judge makes a video why HiCap mags SHOULD be allowed

[Dean]

9th circuit judge makes a 18 minute video to demonstrate his point about why higher capacity mags SHOULD be allowed in the State of California.

https://www.dailyjournal.com/articles/384444-federal-judge-sparks-uproar-with-gun-filled-youtube-dissent?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email &utm_content=Judge%20sparks%20uproar%20with%20g un-filled%20YouTube%20dissent&utm_campaign=Breaking%2 0News%203%2F20&vgo_ee=6dRGYPqaV7XslRx88skn73c9ueXa NrXxJH6AE7Xl60jlQC4bNQ%3D%3D%3Agf1wOVyYiyEEsxdhc53 6E245cp%2FhGFMV

[Rumblemonkey]

I just saw something on the news about the courts said the ban was constitutinal. (missplled!) Lame.

[wamphyri13]

If standard mags are once again allowed in California, the liberal, gun-hating constituents of the democratic party would lose their minds and the politicians would lose their jobs at the next vote. The dem politicians don't care one way or the other about standard mags, they care about their job, their power, and their status. ANYTHING that threatens that must be quashed, rights be damned. We had two Freedom Week instances in the last few years where we were getting standard mags again and we have seen no increase in gun crime because of it. Why? Because criminals don't order mags from websites like law abiding people do. Try explaining that to a politician and you may as well be speaking Klingon. Even Darmok couldn't get through to a politician.

[Capybara]

If standard mags are once again allowed in California, the liberal, gun-hating constituents of the democratic party would lose their minds and the politicians would lose their jobs at the next vote. The dem politicians don't care one way or the other about standard mags, they care about their job, their power, and their status. ANYTHING that threatens that must be quashed, rights be damned. We had two Freedom Week instances in the last few years where we were getting standard mags again and we have seen no increase in gun crime because of it. Why? Because criminals don't order mags from websites like law abiding people do. Try explaining that to a politician and you may as well be speaking Klingon. Even Darmok couldn't get through to a politician.

Using the correct language is a start, as you did. STANDARD CAPACITY MAGAZINES.
LCMs or HCMs are anti gun owner, anti-gun bull*s*h*i*t terms that are meaningless.
If they want to talk 50 or 100 round drums, then they can call them LCMs because they aren't standard as designed by the firearms designers.

[walmart_ar15]

What the Judge did not get into is that 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with self-defense, hunting, recreational sport, they are just side benefits. The real reason for the 2A is to ensure the citizenry are as well "armed" as the Government. With the rest of the Bill of Rights, it is a protected Right so if one day the citizenry of this Great Nation decide to replace the Government, it will have the means to do so. With that in mind, yes, the firearms are dangerous and they need to be as dangerous as the firearms used by the Government. If the Government uses magazines with more than 10 rounds, then we should also have those magazines. It is really that straight forward.

[walmart_ar15]

Also Judge should have asked the question to CA, if CA consider a detachable magazine as an accessory, since it can be easily interchanged, then why the same round limitation on guns with an internal fix magazine? A fixed magazine is NOT an accessory, it is part of the gun. So why is it also limited if regulation can only be used for accessory? Thus it is obvious the ban is not targeted on accessory, it is targeted at the functionality, which is 2A protected according to CA.

[BAJ475]

What the Judge did not get into is that 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with self-defense, hunting, recreational sport, they are just side benefits. The real reason for the 2A is to ensure the citizenry are as well "armed" as the Government. With the rest of the Bill of Rights, it is a protected Right so if one day the citizenry of this Great Nation decide to replace the Government, it will have the means to do so. With that in mind, yes, the firearms are dangerous and they need to be as dangerous as the firearms used by the Government. If the Government uses magazines with more than 10 rounds, then we should also have those magazines. It is really that straight forward.

You are, of course, correct. Reminds me of Chip Roy destroying Jerry Nadler.

[wamphyri13]

Using the correct language is a start, as you did. STANDARD CAPACITY MAGAZINES.
LCMs or HCMs are anti gun owner, anti-gun bull*s*h*i*t terms that are meaningless.
If they want to talk 50 or 100 round drums, then they can call them LCMs because they aren't standard as designed by the firearms designers.

I always try to use the correct terms because, you know, they're the correct terms. lol It also helps anyone listening when I'm talking about this stuff in public with a friend begin to understand things better. I've actually had a few non-gun people ask questions and I've given them a brief education on media terms vs actual terms. Some of them learned something, some stayed ignorant.

[Capybara]

I always try to use the correct terms because, you know, they're the correct terms. lol It also helps anyone listening when I'm talking about this stuff in public with a friend begin to understand things better. I've actually had a few non-gun people ask questions and I've given them a brief education on media terms vs actual terms. Some of them learned something, some stayed ignorant.

Unfortunately the left has done the same thing with everything. Illegal Aliens are now undocumented immigrants. Criminals are justice systems victims. Racist Marxists are BLM supporters. It's all a very carefully crafted plan to change thought through language and terms for the ignorant and easily swayed.
It's very important to call them on their bullshyte and to use the correct terminology, especially when it comes to Firearms and the 2A. If the manufacturer engineered and conceived the firearm with a specific magazine capacity as "stock", then those magazines are "standard", Commifornia gun grabbers be damned.

[wamphyri13]

Unfortunately the left has done the same thing with everything. Illegal Aliens are now undocumented immigrants. Criminals are justice systems victims. Racist Marxists are BLM supporters. It's all a very carefully crafted plan to change thought through language and terms for the ignorant and easily swayed.
It's very important to call them on their bullshyte and to use the correct terminology, especially when it comes to Firearms and the 2A. If the manufacturer engineered and conceived the firearm with a specific magazine capacity as "stock", then those magazines are "standard", Commifornia gun grabbers be damned.

You have exactly described George Carlin's routine on euphemisms. Are you familiar with it?

[Citadelgrad87]

I think most are not understanding his argument. The two judges who claim the second amendment doesn't protect a 30 round magazine did so BECAUSE they claim, "we have 10 round magazines, and they will work, so the 30 is not protected". This is a crappy test for constitutional protections BECAUSE, as he showed in the video, virtually every part of a Sig 320 can be swapped out for a different part, sights, grips, triggers. If the existence of a different part means the 2d does not protect it, the 320 IS NOT PROTECTED :"because" there are alternate parts, and so the legislature could ban certain triggers, sights, barrels, grip modules, takedown levers, etc. The whole pistol is not protected.

That CANNOT be "the test", because it's a meaningless test.

[Capybara]

You have exactly described George Carlin's routine on euphemisms. Are you familiar with it?

I've def seen it, he was a smart guy, quite the thinker

[CessnaDriver]

Need to ban high capacity free speech, free speech is dangerous isn't it? A right is a right.