The 2nd Amendment at work - just not here

[flyer898]

Finland is building shooting ranges and encouraging rifle practice - guess why.

https://reason.com/volokh/2024/02/19/make-finland-the-land-of-shooting-badassery-again/#more-8265931

[taperxz]

This isn’t about CA litigation

Maybe post this in the appropriate forum?

[homelessdude]

They have a pretty fearsome reputation with winter warfare and sniping. Getting ready for bear season.

[2761377]

did you see the part about licenses? that is not 2nd Amendment.

that the government is building rifle ranges is fear-mongering. so is the imputation that Russia may invade.

belongs in Off Topic

[AlmostHeaven]

Finland has gun laws that California wishes could enact into reality. No American patriot should look to any European nations as positive examples regarding firearm regulations.

The ownership and use of firearms is regulated by the Firearms Act of 1998. A license is always needed for possession of a firearm and all firearms are registered. Firearms may only be carried while they are being used for a specific purpose (e.g. hunting, shooting at the range). When transporting a firearm to or from such activity, the firearm must be unloaded and stored in a case or pouch. The owner of a firearm is responsible for making sure that firearms and ammunition do not end up in unauthorized hands. The exact requirements regarding storage of firearms depends on their type and quantity.

Air guns up to 6.35 mm (0.25 inch) in caliber are not regulated regardless of their muzzle energy. Larger bore air weapons need a permit, unless the person already holds a firearms licence. Bows and crossbows are not regulated items in Finland, while pepper spray is. Suppressors are considered firearm components, but can be used without requiring any separate licensing. Magazine capacity is not restricted nor is there regulation regarding other firearm accessories.

An unlicensed person may use firearms only under direct supervision. Simple unlawful possession of a firearm is punishable by fine or up to two years in prison, although more severe punishments may apply e.g. in the case of fully automatic weapons or when used to commit other crime. However, an unlicensed firearm may always be turned in without repercussions, provided this happens at the initiative of the person in possession of the firearm.

Certain types of ammunition, such as expanding pistol rounds or incendiary rounds, require special authorization (in addition to a firearms licence) to purchase. The amount of ammunition a person may possess is not limited by the Firearms Act. However, legislation related to the safe storage of explosive materials does apply. Ordinarily, this means a maximum of 20,000 rounds of ammunition (including loose primers) and 2 kg of gunpowder per household, with larger quantities requiring separate storage.

[AlmostHeaven]

Before anyone chimes in about how Finland does not ban high-capacity magazines in national law, European Union supranational policy covers the aspect.

With the changes to the EU Firearms Directive, rifles with a magazine capacity of more than 10 cartridges and pistols with a magazine capacity of more than 20 cartridges were put into category A, or prohibited weapons. In Finnish nomenclature these firearms were added to the specially dangerous category, which essentially restricts their availability to established practical shooters and those actively participating in reservist activities. The same firearms can be used with lower capacity magazines without being considered specially dangerous.

[yacko]

They have a pretty fearsome reputation with winter warfare and sniping. Getting ready for bear season.

While it would be awesome for history to repeat itself.....

I doubt any bears will dare wander into Finland again.

[AlmostHeaven]

While it would be awesome for history to repeat itself.....

I doubt any bears will dare wander into Finland again.

Finland joined NATO. I do not think Russia wants to escalate its hardly sustainable "special military operation" in Ukraine into a direct confrontation against the United States.

[neuron]

Finland has gun laws that California wishes could enact into reality. No American patriot should look to any European nations as positive examples regarding firearm regulations.

What about Switzerland?

[k1dude]

[SIZE="3"]Finland has gun laws that California wishes could enact into reality. No American patriot should look to any European nations as positive examples regarding firearm regulations.

IIRC, some eastern european places like the Czech Republic have pretty good gun regs.

[karsk]

did you see the part about licenses? that is not 2nd Amendment.

that the government is building rifle ranges is fear-mongering. so is the imputation that Russia may invade.

belongs in Off Topic

agreed. governments don't decide to just grant more freedom, it's usually the other way around. and there's always a caveat. the government of finland doesn't care about its citizen's right to defend themselves. at best it cares about its citizens being able to defend the government, at worse it cares about its citizens paying more taxes towards its "defense budget"