Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

9th DEEMS 'INVENTORY SEARCH" UNCONSTITUTIONAL

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • pacrat
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2014
    • 10254

    9th DEEMS 'INVENTORY SEARCH" UNCONSTITUTIONAL

    https://www.courthousenews.com/fbi-b...y%20laundering.

    This is in relation to the FBI breaking into 700 safe dep boxes in Beverly Hills in 2021, without a valid warrant, and stealing the contents. Claiming "INVENTORY SEARCH" to cover their butts. And then using the CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE SCAM to keep the LOOT.
    which in some cases, they are now claiming to have conveniently LOST THE ASSETS.

    If this ruling stands. It IMO has larger implications re LE inventory searches. Which many citizens see as fishing expeditions.

    JM2c
  • #2
    TruOil
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2017
    • 1920

    I hope this sticks. What the FBI did was absolutely outrageous, and to then "lose" property which it had no legal right to seize in the first place should have been a slam dunk for Plaintiffs in the trial court. I am glad to see that justice may finally be had in this case.

    Comment

    • #3
      Foothills
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 918

      A 3-judge panel of Republican appointees? The plaintiffs are lucky this isn't a 2A case.
      CRPA Member

      Comment

      • #4
        AlmostHeaven
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2023
        • 3808

        The very concept of civil asset forfeiture would have pushed the Founding Fathers to launch a second revolution. Nothing else better exemplifies how much the totalitarian boot of the state has expanded over the past two centuries in the United States.
        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

        The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

        Comment

        • #5
          tast101
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 176

          Same thing is happening in Atalanta?s airport, I know it happens over places as well. ?Random Search? after you?ve already gone through a TSA security checkpoint, and if they find cash on you they confiscate it under this claim of civil asset forfeiture under the premises that you are transporting drug money. If I remember correctly the police doing this in the airport are from the next county over as well. Crazy how this is allowed.

          The thing that sucks is, they pissed off someone with money. But had this been us the normal people say in say the Inland Empire, I doubt it?s get the spotlight it is.
          Last edited by tast101; 01-26-2024, 8:19 AM.

          Comment

          • #6
            Rickybillegas
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2022
            • 1498

            Kind of like what happened to Arnold in Germany at the airport.
            He was carrying a 15K$ watch that he planned to auction off for charity and they detained him and charged him and demanded tax payment for the value of the auction proceeds even though it's for charity.

            Comment

            • #7
              splithoof
              Veteran Member
              • May 2015
              • 4778

              Originally posted by AlmostHeaven
              The very concept of civil asset forfeiture would have pushed the Founding Fathers to launch a second revolution. Nothing else better exemplifies how much the totalitarian boot of the state has expanded over the past two centuries in the United States.
              Very, very true.
              I am sickened by what has become of institutions that good folk used to hold in high regard, from various branches of government, institutions of so-called higher learning, the judiciary, former industrial industries that kept Americans employed, churches, legislatures, etc. It is particularly bothersome that these once respected various federal agencies have now squared off against the citizenry, and use tools like asset forfeiture to line their pockets like King George. The colonists finally got tired of it, and purged it. Looks like that is repeating in the early stages. If there was ever a time to be distrustful of government agents and their masters, it has fully arrived.

              Comment

              • #8
                AlmostHeaven
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2023
                • 3808

                Originally posted by splithoof
                Very, very true.
                I am sickened by what has become of institutions that good folk used to hold in high regard, from various branches of government, institutions of so-called higher learning, the judiciary, former industrial industries that kept Americans employed, churches, legislatures, etc. It is particularly bothersome that these once respected various federal agencies have now squared off against the citizenry, and use tools like asset forfeiture to line their pockets like King George. The colonists finally got tired of it, and purged it. Looks like that is repeating in the early stages. If there was ever a time to be distrustful of government agents and their masters, it has fully arrived.
                I agree that the Supreme Court must wake up to reality. I still harbor hope that the Republican-appointed members will shift gears next term, and the current inaction primarily stems from wanting to avoid making waves in a historic election year. After all, Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization seriously impeded GOP electoral performance in November 2022.

                The country and all its institutions face a vexing situation. The culture war has subsumed all; virtually nothing in the modern era escapes partisan polarization. Justices no longer enjoy the luxury of myopically proceeding in accordance with pure legal theories and unvarnished principles. Thinking politically has elevated to a core aspect of the role of federal jurists.

                The Supreme Court cannot make any decisions about high-salience social issues without incurring furious blowback from at least 1/3 of the country. Eventually, the institutionalists must decide whether maximizing legitimacy at the expense of never exercising any real transformative power qualifies as a sustainable path forward, or if a time will arrive in the near future to spend political capital and issue long-overdue majority opinions rolling back decades of progressive living constitutionalist activism.
                A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

                Comment

                • #9
                  BAJ475
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 5011

                  Originally posted by AlmostHeaven
                  I agree that the Supreme Court must wake up to reality. I still harbor hope that the Republican-appointed members will shift gears next term, and the current inaction primarily stems from wanting to avoid making waves in a historic election year. After all, Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization seriously impeded GOP electoral performance in November 2022.

                  The country and all its institutions face a vexing situation. The culture war has subsumed all; virtually nothing in the modern era escapes partisan polarization. Justices no longer enjoy the luxury of myopically proceeding in accordance with pure legal theories and unvarnished principles. Thinking politically has elevated to a core aspect of the role of federal jurists.

                  The Supreme Court cannot make any decisions about high-salience social issues without incurring furious blowback from at least 1/3 of the country. Eventually, the institutionalists must decide whether maximizing legitimacy at the expense of never exercising any real transformative power qualifies as a sustainable path forward, or if a time will arrive in the near future to spend political capital and issue long-overdue majority opinions rolling back decades of progressive living constitutionalist activism.
                  I wish I shared your hope. But I do not see a solution short of the cartridge box. This is because I do not see the commies giving up until they are put in the ground.

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    AlmostHeaven
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2023
                    • 3808

                    Originally posted by BAJ475
                    I wish I shared your hope. But I do not see a solution short of the cartridge box. This is because I do not see the commies giving up until they are put in the ground.
                    Ultimately, no one but God truly knows what lies ahead for the United States of America. We can only hope for the best, pray for the nation, stockpile supplies, and prepare for the worst.
                    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                    The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      Jimi Jah
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 17383

                      Modern Rome. Get ready for the middle ages.

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        AlmostHeaven
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2023
                        • 3808

                        Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                        Modern Rome. Get ready for the middle ages.
                        Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best, unless you want to demoralize and depress yourself and your loved ones.
                        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                        The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          bohoki
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 20727

                          every plaintiff should get 68 million dollars in punitive damage for invasion of privacy

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            AlmostHeaven
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2023
                            • 3808

                            Individuals have to be held accountable. Damage payouts come straight out of the taxpayers.
                            A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                            The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              pacrat
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • May 2014
                              • 10254

                              Originally posted by AlmostHeaven
                              Individuals have to be held accountable. Damage payouts come straight out of the taxpayers.
                              "JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS" didn't pass the smell test in the Nuremberg Trials.

                              Nor does it pass the smell test in this case. They hung those Jack Boot Thug Nazi bastards by the neck until dead. The least that should happen here all those decades later. Is that "qualified immunity" should be denied. Because these modern day JBTs knew damn well that they did not have a valid warrant for the loot they stole.

                              They should all be held personally responsible for any losses incurred on citizens due to their willing participation in the theft.

                              Thieving bastards, are thieving bastards. With or without, a badge.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1