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  • #76
    SpudmanWP
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2017
    • 1156

    Inertest Balancing at its best.

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    • #77
      abinsinia
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 4119

      Originally posted by newbieLA
      I?m sure this has been discussed but how does the state justify the 10-day ?cool off? period for folks who already own firearms? It doesn?t sound like this would hold up in court.
      Here's their brief in the Silvester case,



      On page 56 they discuss some of their reasons for the cooling off period for "subsequent purchaser".

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      • #78
        JiuJitsu
        Member
        • Dec 2020
        • 345

        I only read a few pages of the Silvester case brief and got nauseated. What a steaming pile of anti-gun BS. Good lord, man.

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        • #79
          newbieLA
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2018
          • 617

          Originally posted by abinsinia
          Here's their brief in the Silvester case,



          On page 56 they discuss some of their reasons for the cooling off period for "subsequent purchaser".
          Thank you for sharing the link. So to summarize their argument: ?if you?ve previously purchased 10 firearms there?s a good chance you might have sold, lost or loaned them out so we must assume the next one you buy is gonna be used to commit murder, hence you?ll change your mind and cool off the whole murder thing if we just make you wait 10 days?? jeez, lawyers can weave the biggest pile of BS and act like it?s completely logical LOL!!

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          • #80
            Mongo68
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 243

            Originally posted by newbieLA
            Thank you for sharing the link. So to summarize their argument: ?if you?ve previously purchased 10 firearms there?s a good chance you might have sold, lost or loaned them out so we must assume the next one you buy is gonna be used to commit murder, hence you?ll change your mind and cool off the whole murder thing if we just make you wait 10 days?? jeez, lawyers can weave the biggest pile of BS and act like it?s completely logical LOL!!
            And; sold theres a record of it unless you broke the law, lost- theres a police report or you broke the law, loaned- unless theres a dros, you broke the law...

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            • #81
              7.62mm_fmj
              Member
              • Nov 2019
              • 204

              So...pretrial conference on September 23, 2024?
              Gimme a break.

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              • #82
                abinsinia
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 4119

                Maybe preliminary injunction would speed things up ?

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                • #83
                  AlmostHeaven
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2023
                  • 3808

                  Originally posted by 7.62mm_fmj
                  So...pretrial conference on September 23, 2024?
                  Gimme a break.
                  Behold what happens when a liberal-dominated appellate court meets an issue it despises, and the Supreme Court has not sufficiently intervened in the past.
                  A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                  The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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                  • #84
                    DentonandSasquatchShow
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2018
                    • 1343

                    Our mags should be innocent until proven guilty.
                    I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.

                    The last time I had faith in the News was when it was with Huey Lewis.

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                    • #85
                      abinsinia
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 4119

                      There was an extension requested and granted. The scheduling already extends out over a year from now, so it maybe got longer.

                      Joint MOTION for Extension of Time to Complete Discovery by Rob Bonta. (Attachments: # 1 Declaration)(Brady, Sebastian) (rmc). (Entered: 09/20/2023)


                      ORDER Granting 12 Joint Motion to Extend Discovery Deadline, and Issuing FIRST AMENDED SCHEDULING ORDER. (Mandatory Settlement Conference set for 9/13/2024 at 9:30 AM before Magistrate Judge Allison H. Goddard. Proposed Pretrial Order due by 11/18/2024. Final Pretrial Conference set for 11/25/2024 at 12:00 PM before Judge Larry Alan Burns). Signed by Magistrate Judge Allison H. Goddard on 9/21/2023. (hmw) (Entered: 09/21/2023)

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                      • #86
                        AlmostHeaven
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2023
                        • 3808

                        The state uses the same exact grotesque list of invalid historical analogues to defend against every single Second Amendment challenge. The sole purpose of this motion is to waste time.
                        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                        The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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                        • #87
                          darkwater34
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 772

                          So wait a minute is this another case being settled out of court?

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                          • #88
                            darkwater34
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 772

                            Well it seems that this case has some merit, appears that the plaintiffs could get a trial. But what about plaintiffs getting a P.I. while awaiting the outcome.?

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                            • #89
                              abinsinia
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 4119

                              MINUTE ORDER (AGS): In light of the forthcoming Supreme Court decision in United States v. Rahimi, No. 22-915, which may bear substantially on this case, the joint scheduling motion (ECF 19 ) is granted. See 143 S. Ct. 2688 (2023) (mem.). Briefing deadlines for the parties' cross-summary-judgment motions are set as requested. The Court sets a hearing on both motions for November 15, 2024, at 2 p.m. All pretrial dates and deadlines are vacated, to be reset following that hearing, if necessary. Signed by District Judge Andrew G. Schopler on 05/31/2024. (no document attached) (raw) (Entered: 05/31/2024)
                              This case was delayed. I'm not sure why Rahimi is so meaningful to this case tho.

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                              • #90
                                splithoof
                                Calguns Addict
                                • May 2015
                                • 5244

                                Originally posted by abinsinia

                                This case was delayed. I'm not sure why Rahimi is so meaningful to this case tho.
                                I suspect that ANY 2A case in front of The Eunuchs of SCOTUS serves as a excuse to delay all other 2A cases

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