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  • pacrat
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2014
    • 10250

    CRPA Gun Show Lawsuit Filed

    FILING



    Late last week, CRPA, in concert with B&L Productions, Second Amendment Foundation and Asian Pacific American Gun Owners Association, filed suit to repeal the ban on gun shows at the state-owned Orange County Fairgrounds. More details and the filing itself can be found at CRPA's News page.

    Despite getting roundly defeated by CRPA, SAF, GOC, and others in lawsuit that invalidated a ban on gun shows at the Del Mar Fairgrounds in federal court in 2019, Min, pushed by gun-owner-hating Gavin Newsom, tried to get around the First Amendment issues that caused the court to strike down the Del Mar gun show ban. In seeking other ways to essentially ban gun shows, they came up with SB 264 -- which bans the sale of guns and ammo on the property, rather than banning the gun show itself.
  • #2
    command_liner
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 1168

    Some of us went to the long-ago trial in the federal court house in SF and watched the state attorney explain how it would be fine to have gun shows in county-owned locations -- given a long list of conditions. I think those conditions have been met now with Bruen.

    Chuck M was there with us. I have not read the filing, but it sure would be a thousand types of awesome to quote the state's own reasoning back to them.
    Last edited by command_liner; 08-16-2022, 1:52 PM. Reason: spelling error
    What about the 19th? Can the Commerce Clause be used to make it illegal for voting women to buy shoes from another state?

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    • #3
      FreshTapCoke
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 878

      I am happy I finally started contributing to the CRPA. I should not have waited so long and will be making up for lost time.
      Originally posted by Noble Cause
      Can you imagine Patrick Henry, the "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death" guy, in today's world, whining about "not joining the NRA because of junk mail" ?!

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      • #4
        abinsinia
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2015
        • 3906

        I think this case was dismissed on Aug. 18th

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        • #5
          steel
          Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 274

          It's not over yet. Plaintiffs were given leave to amend portions of the complaint. The first amended complaint must be filed by 8-31-22.

          Judge Battaglia was appointed by Obama. Let's see if he has the integrity to respect Bruen and do his job.

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          • #6
            abinsinia
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 3906

            Sep 16, 2022 Extension of Time to File Document AND Extending Time to Answer (More than 30 days)
            Extension filed on this case.

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            • #7
              WWDHD?
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 2611

              All I ever hear about regarding this subject is Del Mar and Orange Co Fairgrounds. What about the Cow Palace- another State owned facility?
              NRA & CRPA member
              semi-docile tax payer
              amateur survivalist

              Nolite te bastardes carborundorum!

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              • #8
                abinsinia
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 3906

                Looks like the extension was granted.

                ORDER TO EXTEND TIME TO RESPOND TO THE COMPLAINT 14 by Judge John W. Holcomb. The Court hereby GRANTS the motion and orders as follows; The time to answer, move to dismiss, or otherwise respond to the Complaint for the Stipulating Defendants is extended to 11/14/2022. IT IS SO ORDERED. (See document for further details) (yl) (Entered: 09/19/2022)

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                • #9
                  abinsinia
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 3906

                  I think a longer extension was granted or requested,

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                  • #10
                    Liberty Rules
                    Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 274

                    Originally posted by abinsinia
                    I think this case was dismissed on Aug. 18th

                    https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...18348.35.0.pdf
                    I am not familiar with this case, but I can tell you that the case document in the link is for a different case. Every pleading filed with a court identifies the case by its number: The dismissal document in your link is from Case 3:21-cv-01718-AJB-KSC. Case numbers include the year the complaint was filed. In that case, it was filed in 2021 (3:21...).

                    The case referenced in the original post above was filed in 2022. Its case number is 8:22-cv-01518 JWH (JDEx).

                    They are different cases. In addition, the three letter groupings in the case numbers are the initials of the judges and magistrates assigned to the case. In the 2021 case it is Judge Anthony J. Battaglia ("AJB"). In the 2022 case, the judge is John W. Holcomb ("JWH").
                    sigpicNRA Life Member

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                    • #11
                      abinsinia
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 3906

                      Originally posted by Liberty Rules
                      I am not familiar with this case, but I can tell you that the case document in the link is for a different case. Every pleading filed with a court identifies the case by its number: The dismissal document in your link is from Case 3:21-cv-01718-AJB-KSC. Case numbers include the year the complaint was filed. In that case, it was filed in 2021 (3:21...).

                      The case referenced in the original post above was filed in 2022. Its case number is 8:22-cv-01518 JWH (JDEx).

                      They are different cases. In addition, the three letter groupings in the case numbers are the initials of the judges and magistrates assigned to the case. In the 2021 case it is Judge Anthony J. Battaglia ("AJB"). In the 2022 case, the judge is John W. Holcomb ("JWH").


                      Here's the court listener case link where I found the document.

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                      • #12
                        Liberty Rules
                        Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 274

                        Originally posted by abinsinia
                        Here's the court listener case link where I found the document.
                        https://www.courtlistener.com/docket...-gavin-newsom/
                        That's for the 2022 case which this thread is about. The other link you provided to the dismissal decision is for a different case that was filed in 2021.
                        sigpicNRA Life Member

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                        • #13
                          abinsinia
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 3906

                          Originally posted by Liberty Rules
                          That's for the 2022 case which this thread is about. The other link you provided to the dismissal decision is for a different case that was filed in 2021.
                          The document link is from the docket Entry #16 attachment 1.

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                          • #14
                            Liberty Rules
                            Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 274

                            Originally posted by abinsinia
                            The document link is from the docket Entry #16 attachment 1.
                            Sorry but you're mixing up your posts. I wrote about (and quoted) your post which is #4 in the thread. In that one, you linked to a 2021 case's order of dismissal and suggested that this 2022 case had already been dismissed. I explained why that is incorrect and that they are two different cases.

                            Now, in reply, you are talking about a different post later in the thread in which you linked to the extension of time in the 2022 case.
                            sigpicNRA Life Member

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                            • #15
                              abinsinia
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 3906

                              Originally posted by Liberty Rules
                              Sorry but you're mixing up your posts. I wrote about (and quoted) your post which is #4 in the thread. In that one, you linked to a 2021 case's order of dismissal and suggested that this 2022 case had already been dismissed. I explained why that is incorrect and that they are two different cases.

                              Now, in reply, you are talking about a different post later in the thread in which you linked to the extension of time in the 2022 case.
                              Post #11 is a link to the docket, and post #4 is a link to a document from the docket link in #11. It's docket entry 16 attachment 1.

                              You explained this #4 document is a different case, then I provided the docket where you can find the document I posted. As far as I know this case is the one in post #11.

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