Charles Frye vs Pat Withrow - San Joaquin Sheriff - CCW lawsuit

[Mayor McRifle]

His NRA rating should be changed to "F"

At the risk of throwing cold water on your hit piece thread here, I’d like to note that gun owners in San Joaquin County have no better friend than Sheriff Pat Withrow. I don’t know what you did to get your license revoked, but I bet it was good.

[rational_behavior]

At the risk of throwing cold water on your hit piece thread here, I?d like to note that gun owners in San Joaquin County have no better friend than Sheriff Pat Withrow.

Then San Joaquin county gun owners appear to have very few friends indeed.

I don?t know what you did to get your license revoked, but I bet it was good.

Did you miss the part of the very first post in the thread where it says that "Sheriff Withrow got his feelings hurt by Plaintiff"?

I don't know what really happened here, but we already know that California's may-issue regime is rife with capriciousness and corruption.

Anyways, the end result of this case suggests that being law-abiding but an ******* in San Joaquin county is no longer sufficient grounds for depriving somebody of their rights.

[Mayor McRifle]

Then San Joaquin county gun owners appear to have very few friends indeed.

Nothing could be further from the truth. This area is so gun-friendly we almost take our freedoms for granted.

Did you miss the part of the very first post in the thread where it says that "Sheriff Withrow got his feelings hurt by Plaintiff"?

Did you bother to do any independent research on this? Google makes it very easy. Or are you just willing to take the OP’s word on it merely because he posted it on the internet?

[ohsmily]

Nothing could be further from the truth. This area is so gun-friendly we almost take our freedoms for granted.




Did you bother to do any independent research on this? Google makes it very easy. Or are you just willing to take the OP?s word on it merely because he posted it on the internet?

FYI, I still get numerous calls from people who have been denied a CCW in San Joaquin County. A typical fact pattern is a denial on the basis of minor, old convictions such as a DUI or two from 20+ years ago. **** any sheriff denying people on such grounds, particularly after Bruen.

[rational_behavior]

Nothing could be further from the truth. This area is so gun-friendly we almost take our freedoms for granted.

I'll pass over this without comment

Did you bother to do any independent research on this? Google makes it very easy. Or are you just willing to take the OP?s word on it merely because he posted it on the internet?

Personally I don't care about whatever soap opera lies behind this case because the general principles are what are interesting and relevant to California gun owners.

But why beat around the bush? This thread exists and ranks high in search engines for the case. It appears that the sheriff was wrong as a matter of constitutional and natural law.

If there are some legally relevant wrinkles to the case justifying the sheriff's actions for future readers, it should be posted here for posterity. Especially if he is a friend of the second amendment in reality.

[Chewy65]

Getting a CCW issued does not moot a case, since Frye's right to carry is still subject to laws infringing on his right to continue to carry. Unless those laws can be shown to be analagous to national historic traditions at the time of the adoption of the bill of rights, they are facially vioative of the 2nd and 14th Amendments.

[BrokerB]

A bit weird no follow up

[AlmostHeaven]

A bit weird no follow up

The wheels of justice turn slowly. For gun rights, the wheels hardly turn at all.

[pacrat]

The wheels of justice turn slowly. For gun rights, the wheels hardly turn at all.

Oh they turn plenty. They just seem to not go anywhere.

Other than simply, BACK AND FORTH IN THE SAME RUTTED GAME OF JUDICIAL PING PONG.