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  • enorbit3
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 2642

    Question about AW cases (Rupp and Miller)

    Hey everyone. Can someone please explain the difference between Rupp v Becerra and Miller v Becerra?

    I know they are both related to AW bans, but after reading the complaint in both, I cant really determine the difference. Rupp's complaint by CRPA was clear and concise, well outlined and went into great detail. In contrast, Miller's complaint wasn't as detailed and only a page or two.

    If we are successfull in Rupp, does that mean that Miller is moot?

    Sorry if this has been answered before but I couldn't find anything that explained the difference in the cases.
    LAPD CCW Timeline:
    Application Sent/Rec'd - 10/11/22
    Interview Scheduled - 2/20/22
    Interview & Live Scan- 2/21/22
    DOJ/FBI - 2/22/23
    CCW Training - 2/25/23
    Firearms - 3/1/23
    LAPD CCW Approval Call - 3/20/23
    CCW Permit Issued/picked up - 4/11/23
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    BBot12
    Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 365

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      enorbit3
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 2642

      thank you for that. I enjoy his videos and now its a bit more clear.
      LAPD CCW Timeline:
      Application Sent/Rec'd - 10/11/22
      Interview Scheduled - 2/20/22
      Interview & Live Scan- 2/21/22
      DOJ/FBI - 2/22/23
      CCW Training - 2/25/23
      Firearms - 3/1/23
      LAPD CCW Approval Call - 3/20/23
      CCW Permit Issued/picked up - 4/11/23

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        BryMan92
        Member
        • Mar 2018
        • 360

        Perhaps my oversimplified answer:

        Rupp: "Assault weapons" with detachable magazines.
        Miller: "Assault weapons" with fixed magazines.

        I think Miller is saying the fixed-magazine limit of 10 rounds is now in disagreement with Duncan.

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        • #5
          enorbit3
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 2642

          Thank you Bryman. That's about as plain as it gets but easiest to digest
          LAPD CCW Timeline:
          Application Sent/Rec'd - 10/11/22
          Interview Scheduled - 2/20/22
          Interview & Live Scan- 2/21/22
          DOJ/FBI - 2/22/23
          CCW Training - 2/25/23
          Firearms - 3/1/23
          LAPD CCW Approval Call - 3/20/23
          CCW Permit Issued/picked up - 4/11/23

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          • #6
            Uncivil Engineer
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2016
            • 1101

            Originally posted by BryMan92
            Perhaps my oversimplified answer:

            Rupp: "Assault weapons" with detachable magazines.
            Miller: "Assault weapons" with fixed magazines.

            I think Miller is saying the fixed-magazine limit of 10 rounds is now in disagreement with Duncan.
            I think that is how Miller started. I believe it was strategic to get transferred to Benitez. Recall that Duncan was just about grandfathered magazines then Benitez tossed out the entire law. I think Miller was trying to take the same track. Get the case infront of Benitez then try to expand the scope and undo all of the AW laws.

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