NRA v. San Francisco, NDCA - Lawsuit over terrorist declaration

[FirearmFino]

NRA sues San Francisco over terrorist declarationhttps://assets.documentcloud.org/doc.../ECF-No-1A.pdf

[Garv]

I hope the NRA wins big, maybe if their taxpayers shell out enough they will reconsider their votes.

[big red]

As much as I am a critic of the NRA due to it's management but not the reason it exists I pray they win big on this case. This could be the win that could turn me in to a dues paying member.

[ARFrog]

I hope the NRA wins big, maybe if their taxpayers shell out enough they will reconsider their votes.

Besides cash, maybe they can also ask to be given the very visible Coit Tower. It can be renamed...Compensator Hill....2A Hill...???

sharpshooting.

[Federalist50]

Besides cash, maybe they can also ask to be given the very visible Coit Tower. It can be renamed...Compensator Hill....2A Hill...???

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Birdcage Tower.

[big red]

here is the problem. if the NRA takes property instead of cash which I doubt SF could come up with the cash, The NRA would have to clean up the city and dispose of the homeless, drug addicts, liberals, trash, etc and that would bankrupt the NRA even if it won. make the city have a giant garage sale, sell off it's city wide assets, take the money, and let the city sink under it's own filth. Maybe "giveaway" Gavin could loan them the money from LA.

[ARFrog]

Well, let me continue to keep my tongue in cheek for this scenario and answer as follows...

Why would the NRA take over responsibility for the clean up and problems of the entire city? The problems have been caused by liberal/progressive government which is ever intrusive in the lives of the citizenry but hands out rights without calling for responsibilities from the granted parties. The end result is the anarchy that we observe.

At most the NRA should maintain only Compensator Hill in a clean and pristine fashion as a shining beacon of hope and example to the same citizenry that needs a practical demonstration or reminder that living in a pig pen does not have to be the norm.

Having said the above, I like the thought of the city wide garage sale

[BajaJames83]

Hope they take the city for everything they got.
They need to go bankrupt maybe just maybe then people will wake up.

[krfresno]

If property go for Hetch hetchy reservoir.

[ARFrog]

If property go for Hetch hetchy reservoir.

Wow, can you envision the epic battle the Sierra Club would put forward to have the NRA forced to drain the reservoir and further use all their funds to pay for valley restoration?

[wolfwood]

Two questions that pop up after a cursory review of the complaint.

How is the resolution not government speech?
And more importantly how is the NRA harmed by a symbolic resolution?
If I am not mistaken the resolution is more of an aspirational document and does not compel any specific action.
I.e how is there a case or controversy for the Court to rule on that is redressable by Court action.

I see they are trying to allude to a chilling effect on speech because San Fran vendors will stay away from the NRA. However, I don't see any facts alleged demonstrating that.

The NRA may win this but those are questions I'd be ready to answer.

[MASTERLAB]

Wildwood I would consider it Libel (not protected as free speach) as it is an untruth and could hurt not only the NRAs ability to fundraise but also hurt members or donor organizations from conducting their legal buissness. Additionally being a terrorist is a crime and being labeled down the road lead to false criminal prosecution.

[sfpcservice]

San Francisco is awash in cash. Don't let the look of the streets fool you. Just look up at all the tower cranes...

[MrTokarev]

Wildwood I would consider it Libel (not protected as free speach) as it is an untruth and could hurt not only the NRAs ability to fundraise but also hurt members or donor organizations from conducting their legal buissness. Additionally being a terrorist is a crime and being labeled down the road lead to false criminal prosecution.

Does the 1A even apply to the government? The politicians behind this are not making declarations on their free time but in their official capacity and power as government officials. 1A seems to exist to protect citizens from the gov and not vice versa.

[wolfwood]

Does the 1A even apply to the government? The politicians behind this are not making declarations on their free time but in their official capacity and power as government officials. 1A seems to exist to protect citizens from the gov and not vice versa.

The government speech doctrine, in American constitutional law, says that the government is not infringing the free speech rights of individual people when the government declines to use viewpoint neutrality in its own speech

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_speech