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Miller v. Bonta 9th Ckt "assault weapons": Held for Duncan result 1-26-24

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  • Bhobbs
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 11845

    The ripple effects from SCOTUS not taking Duncan or Bianchi will take years to sort out. Their failure has been costly.

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    • DolphinFan
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 2552

      I predict SCOTUS steps in before the end of the year and upholds Benitez and scolds the 9th.
      A Right delayed is a Right Denied.
      Oh well, my AR?s will need to stay in current configuration for a little longer.
      I have a totally neutered fixed 10 round M4 version and an M2 version, no flash hider, no pistol grip, detachable magazines. Only need to replace the monster man stock and reinstall the pistol grip when the time comes.
      And based on the rules of a fast and speedy trial, will be decided within 100 days. So it could be drawn out until February 5, before we have a decision and SCOUTS intervention.
      The sand in the hourglass is running out.
      10/15/2022 - Called to get on the list
      2/18/2023 - Interview set
      4/27/2023 - Class
      4/30/2023 - Live Scan
      5/9/2023 - Interview
      6/26/2023 - Approval Letter
      8/1/2023 - Issued

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      • Bhobbs
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 11845

        SCOTUS will only step in to protect government interests. Anyone expecting them to step in to protect our rights is lying to themselves.

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        • EM2
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 4562

          Originally posted by DolphinFan
          I predict SCOTUS steps in before the end of the year and upholds Benitez and scolds the 9th.
          A Right delayed is a Right Denied.
          Oh well, my AR?s will need to stay in current configuration for a little longer.
          I have a totally neutered fixed 10 round M4 version and an M2 version, no flash hider, no pistol grip, detachable magazines. Only need to replace the monster man stock and reinstall the pistol grip when the time comes.
          And based on the rules of a fast and speedy trial, will be decided within 100 days. So it could be drawn out until February 5, before we have a decision and SCOUTS intervention.
          The sand in the hourglass is running out.
          "duck the femocrats" Originally posted by M76

          If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. Col. Jeff Cooper

          Originally posted by SAN compnerd
          It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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          • troyPhD
            Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 215

            Originally posted by DolphinFan
            I predict SCOTUS steps in before the end of the year and upholds Benitez and scolds the 9th.
            A Right delayed is a Right Denied.
            Oh well, my AR?s will need to stay in current configuration for a little longer.
            I have a totally neutered fixed 10 round M4 version and an M2 version, no flash hider, no pistol grip, detachable magazines. Only need to replace the monster man stock and reinstall the pistol grip when the time comes.
            And based on the rules of a fast and speedy trial, will be decided within 100 days. So it could be drawn out until February 5, before we have a decision and SCOUTS intervention.
            The sand in the hourglass is running out.
            Don't let blind rage impair your interpretation of realities on the ground. As much as we criticize anti-gunners for living in a make-believe utopian fantasy world, we should also avoid falling into the same trap and have realistic expections of how things work in the real world.

            Here's a grounded, unemotional exerpt from Chuck Michel after Duncan was stayed.

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            • LEAD LAUNCHER
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 1938

              Originally posted by chillmind

              Down below I posted a couple Comments concerning this stay from above link-what do you guys think about these 2 posts-anyone agree?:


              420BlazeArk
              ?
              1 hr. ago
              ?
              Stickied comment
              In many ways this is actually good news. The administrative stay was likely to be granted anyways (it is an unfortunate but common aspect of these kinds of proceedings) and the fact that they?ve expedited the hearing on the actual appeal is very important. To contrast, Duncan won?t be heard until 2024 whereas we?ll see real movement on this case before the new year.



              Sulla-was-right
              ?
              38 min. ago
              It?s actually great news! If the panel hadn?t issued the administrative stay, I would have expected an intervention at the en banc level within hours, and the appeal scheduling to be delayed well into next year, followed by returning it back to the three judge panel, then staying again at the en banc and scheduling a whole new trial for 2025.

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              • EM2
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 4562

                It almost seems,... that SCOTUS is controlled opposition.

                The judiciary drags things out, and SCOTUS periodically provides "hope" in a ruling like Heller, McDonald, and Bruen, only to see it drug out some more.

                We resist revolting because we think "next time they will get it right".
                "duck the femocrats" Originally posted by M76

                If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. Col. Jeff Cooper

                Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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                • Bhobbs
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 11845

                  Originally posted by troyPhD
                  Don't let blind rage impair your interpretation of realities on the ground. As much as we criticize anti-gunners for living in a make-believe utopian fantasy world, we should also avoid falling into the same trap and have realistic expections of how things work in the real world.

                  Here's a grounded, unemotional exerpt from Chuck Michel after Duncan was stayed.

                  https://youtu.be/-ueuM18FB68?feature=shared&t=555
                  Anger at open corruption is not blind range. Anger that SCOTUS isn?t protecting our rights isn?t blind range.

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                  • Bhobbs
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11845

                    Originally posted by EM2
                    It almost seems,... that SCOTUS is controlled opposition.

                    The judiciary drags things out, and SCOTUS periodically provides "hope" in a ruling like Heller, McDonald, and Bruen, only to see it drug out some more.

                    We resist revolting because we think "next time they will get it right".
                    SCOTUS is like the English monarchy. A ceremonial body that people just pretend has any real power. The circuits are the Parliament.

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                    • abinsinia
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 4073

                      Bennett screw us. Mark him down as anti gun.

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                      • splithoof
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 4975

                        Originally posted by DolphinFan
                        I predict SCOTUS steps in before the end of the year and upholds Benitez and scolds the 9th.

                        So it could be drawn out until February 5, before we have a decision and SCOUTS intervention.
                        The sand in the hourglass is running out.
                        It?s not an hourglass. It is a decade glass. I?ve been waiting ever since Patrick Purdy got the ball rolling back in 1989 or so, and the pigs in the legislature reacted with Roberti-Roos, which was signed into law by Deukmejian, a REPUBLICAN governor. As to your prediction, I hope you are correct, but I would predict that Gavin Newsome becomes President instead.
                        What a crap sandwich this all is. A lot of us will be dead and gone before this ever gets sorted out.

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                        • MajorSideburns
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 1546

                          Originally posted by Dvrjon
                          So, the hijacking of Duncan yields more fruit for 9 CA as the rationale for imposing this stay.

                          9 CA Stay:

                          (concluding that the attorney general of California is likely to succeed on the merits.

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                          • MajorSideburns
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 1546

                            Originally posted by LEAD LAUNCHER
                            Down below I posted a couple Comments concerning this stay from above link-what do you guys think about these 2 posts-anyone agree?:


                            420BlazeArk
                            ?
                            1 hr. ago
                            ?
                            Stickied comment
                            In many ways this is actually good news. The administrative stay was likely to be granted anyways (it is an unfortunate but common aspect of these kinds of proceedings) and the fact that they?ve expedited the hearing on the actual appeal is very important. To contrast, Duncan won?t be heard until 2024 whereas we?ll see real movement on this case before the new year.



                            Sulla-was-right
                            ?
                            38 min. ago
                            It?s actually great news! If the panel hadn?t issued the administrative stay, I would have expected an intervention at the en banc level within hours, and the appeal scheduling to be delayed well into next year, followed by returning it back to the three judge panel, then staying again at the en banc and scheduling a whole new trial for 2025.
                            No, this is just further delay. They will save the en banc review of this case when they exhaust these other trivial tactics of delay. We won't see any movement in this case until 2026 when the SCOTUS has been expanded with another two dozen activists.

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                            • sparky1979
                              Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 210

                              Originally posted by Bhobbs
                              SCOTUS will only step in to protect government interests. Anyone expecting them to step in to protect our rights is lying to themselves.
                              Truth

                              Sent from my SM-S908U1 using Tapatalk

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                              • Galli1565
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 795

                                Does anyone have an actual link to the text of the latest stay?
                                Certified Colt 1911 Armorer // Certified Glock Armorer // Certified M&P Armorer

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