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  • BAJ475
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2014
    • 5054

    Originally posted by Dvrjon
    May as well get ready for the appeal:

    Various Footnotes in the Brief:
    Sure enough. With respect to the testimony of experts, that generally applies to issues or questions of fact that may not be generally understood. With respect to questions or issues of law, that is for the court to decide and it only needs the attorneys to point to what they believe are applicable statutes and cases. The court is its own expert on the law.

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    • pratchett
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 870

      The State fell right into the trap and decided to rely on outright racism. The plaintiffs should win a trophy for their retort: "The State cannot rely on unconstitutional restrictions in order to justify another unconstitutional regulation."

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      • wchutt
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 590

        I started to feel kind of sorry for the suckers who were picked by the state to defend its position.



        I got over it.

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        • jcwatchdog
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 2571

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          • ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 56967

            Originally posted by Dvrjon
            May as well get ready for the appeal:

            Various Footnotes in the Brief:
            The 9th circuit's stay is already written.
            They are just waiting for the correct date to put on it so they can file it.
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            • curtisfong
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2009
              • 6893

              Originally posted by ar15barrels
              The 9th circuit's stay is already written.
              They are just waiting for the correct date to put on it so they can file it.
              QFT. Utterly corrupt.
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              • BAJ475
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2014
                • 5054

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                The 9th circuit's stay is already written.
                They are just waiting for the correct date to put on it so they can file it.
                Question. Who is the request for a stay directed to and who makes the decision? The entire court, the original 3 judge panel, any 3 judge panel or any judge the appellant chooses?

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                • BobB35
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 782

                  So all they have is the Trap Gun analog? Put a fork in it this is done!

                  As far as the expert testimony. Col. Tucker just goes to show you there are dishonest gun grabbers even in the marines...yet he was an officer. This is from him and show a basic misunderstanding of firearms...so I guess all the LEO who carry AR15 are on the offense and are just planning on killing as many people as possible....the stupid is strong here.

                  he AR-15 is an offensive combat weapon no different in function or
                  purpose than an M4. In my opinion, both weapons are designed to kill as many
                  people as possible, as efficiently as possible, and serve no legitimate sporting or
                  self-defense purpose. Self-defense and military combat are different.

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                  • mshill
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 4420

                    Originally posted by BobB35
                    So all they have is the Trap Gun analog? Put a fork in it this is done!

                    As far as the expert testimony. Col. Tucker just goes to show you there are dishonest gun grabbers even in the marines...yet he was an officer. This is from him and show a basic misunderstanding of firearms...so I guess all the LEO who carry AR15 are on the offense and are just planning on killing as many people as possible....the stupid is strong here.

                    he AR-15 is an offensive combat weapon no different in function or
                    purpose than an M4. In my opinion, both weapons are designed to kill as many
                    people as possible, as efficiently as possible, and serve no legitimate sporting or
                    self-defense purpose. Self-defense and military combat are different.
                    This tool is no more an expert on firearms than I am, maybe less so, based on his comments.
                    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                    • Drivedabizness
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2610

                      Originally posted by mshill
                      This tool is no more an expert on firearms than I am, maybe less so, based on his comments.
                      Someone should ask Col Dipsh*t what my beloved Corps would do to him if he tried to deploy with an AR-15 and less than 30-rd magazines.

                      [Hint: You'd be in BIG trouble because - wait for it - AR15 is NOT military grade!!!]
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                      • chris
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 19447

                        Originally posted by wchutt
                        I started to feel kind of sorry for the suckers who were picked by the state to defend its position.



                        I got over it.
                        I will never feel sorry for this state nor anyone that was picked for this case.
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                        • Sgt Raven
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 3797

                          Originally posted by Drivedabizness
                          Someone should ask Col Dipsh*t what my beloved Corps would do to him if he tried to deploy with an AR-15 and less than 30-rd magazines.

                          [Hint: You'd be in BIG trouble because - wait for it - AR15 is NOT military grade!!!]

                          "Military Grade", in other words, "made by the lowest bidder". Every AR I own is better quality than the M16A1 I was issued.
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                          • eaglemike
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                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3876

                            Originally posted by BobB35
                            So all they have is the Trap Gun analog? Put a fork in it this is done!

                            As far as the expert testimony. Col. Tucker just goes to show you there are dishonest gun grabbers even in the marines...yet he was an officer. This is from him and show a basic misunderstanding of firearms...so I guess all the LEO who carry AR15 are on the offense and are just planning on killing as many people as possible....the stupid is strong here.

                            he AR-15 is an offensive combat weapon no different in function or
                            purpose than an M4. In my opinion, both weapons are designed to kill as many
                            people as possible, as efficiently as possible, and serve no legitimate sporting or
                            self-defense purpose. Self-defense and military combat are different.
                            If they are the same, then why have the full auto arms been banned for so long? Can't be owned in Ca at all. Judge B is a very smart guy, and I know he'll call them out on the facts. It goes to show how corrupt, and what liars, the left has become. I've met a former marine officer that is less than honest, and this "Col Tucker" meets the same criteria. Disappointing.
                            There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

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                            • BobB35
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 782

                              Originally posted by eaglemike
                              If they are the same, then why have the full auto arms been banned for so long? Can't be owned in Ca at all. Judge B is a very smart guy, and I know he'll call them out on the facts. It goes to show how corrupt, and what liars, the left has become. I've met a former marine officer that is less than honest, and this "Col Tucker" meets the same criteria. Disappointing.
                              That's a really good question and to show that the progressive don't think past 1st order consequences...they have spend all this time arguing that AR-15 are the same as M16...so when Ar-15 are found legal...how are they going to argue against the ban on FA? They have painted themselves in a corner with thier illogic and had judges who were willing to support them. Not now. I could see the NFA or at a minimum the Hughes amendment attacked in the next few years after a few of these other cases get settled.

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                              • bigstick61
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 3211

                                Originally posted by Drivedabizness
                                Someone should ask Col Dipsh*t what my beloved Corps would do to him if he tried to deploy with an AR-15 and less than 30-rd magazines.

                                [Hint: You'd be in BIG trouble because - wait for it - AR15 is NOT military grade!!!]
                                The AR-15 started out as select-fire and there are still weapons in U.S. military inventory with receivers marked AR-15. The AR-15 design had to be modified to be semi-auto only and weapons officially designated AR-15 exist in both select-fire and semi-auto only forms. M-16 and the like are just military designations for AR-15 variants adopted for military trials or service.

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