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Miller v. Bonta 9th Ckt "assault weapons": Held for Duncan result 1-26-24

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  • #31
    yzErnie
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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    • Mar 2007
    • 6305

    I'm not all that impressed with Benitez. He granted the injunction on his own well researched and thought out decision. Why haven't the folks representing all of us been assertive in getting that injunction overruled?
    The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

    Originally posted by RazoE
    I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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    • #32
      tenemae
      code Monkey
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      • Jun 2010
      • 1680

      Originally posted by yzernie
      Why haven't the folks representing all of us been assertive in getting that injunction overruled?
      That injunction allows us to keep and use our LCMs. What team are you playing for?

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      • #33
        champu
        CGN Contributor
        • Nov 2013
        • 1981

        Originally posted by yzernie
        I'm not all that impressed with Benitez. He granted the injunction on his own well researched and thought out decision. Why haven't the folks representing all of us been assertive in getting that injunction overruled?
        I think you mean to say he wrote a stay of his own decision.

        And the reason he did that was because if he didn't, the ninth circuit was going to write one that was guaranteed to be less favorable to gun owners. He knew that, and he acted in the favor of gun owners.

        And "getting that injunction (sic) overruled" means fighting all the way to the supreme court (after what is guaranteed to be a loss in the ninth) to make Benitez's ruling final, and that effort is slogging through the courts as we type.

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        • #34
          yzErnie
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2007
          • 6305

          Originally posted by tenemae
          That injunction allows us to keep and use our LCMs. What team are you playing for?
          I'm well aware of that and if you knew anything about me you'd realize how foolish your question is.

          Originally posted by champu
          I think you mean to say he wrote a stay of his own decision.

          And the reason he did that was because if he didn't, the ninth circuit was going to write one that was guaranteed to be less favorable to gun owners. He knew that, and he acted in the favor of gun owners.

          And "getting that injunction (sic) overruled" means fighting all the way to the supreme court (after what is guaranteed to be a loss in the ninth) to make Benitez's ruling final, and that effort is slogging through the courts as we type.
          You are correct, a terminology mistake on my part. I think he is on our side yet I find it frustrating by the slow moving process(es).
          The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

          Originally posted by RazoE
          I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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          • #35
            USMCM16A2
            Banned
            • Jul 2006
            • 4941

            FGG,


            AWESOME timing, always there to piss on people’s parade! Always good for a laugh! Keep it coming! A2

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            • #36
            • #37
              asymmetricalwarfar3
              Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 380



              Originally posted by BTF/PTM
              Stay black, don't fake the funk. Peace out, yall.

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              • #38
                NorCalRT
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 1327

                **** ya!

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                • #39
                  Uncivil Engineer
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 1101

                  Originally posted by moleculo
                  They're attempting to address the current situation where it's currently legal to possess and use magazines > 10 rounds except in fixed magazine semi-auto firearms with features. They're trying to get rid of that exception so that the magazines may be used in those specific type of firearms.
                  I bet that is all pretext so they can get an assault weapons case in front of Benitez. Remember, Duncan was just about old magazines losing their grandfathered status. Bentiez took that ball and ran so far as to say all magazine limits are unconstitutional. Reading that opinion suggests he isn't having any of the AW ban. I think the only questions are how far can be go with this case and will we have another freedom week? Will the 10day wait make it impossible to have another freedom week?

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                  • #40
                    champu
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 1981

                    Originally posted by Uncivil Engineer
                    I think the only questions are how far can be go with this case and will we have another freedom week? Will the 10day wait make it impossible to have another freedom week?

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                    • #41
                      jcwatchdog
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                      • Aug 2012
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                      • #42
                        Uncivil Engineer
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 1101

                        I agree. The more I think about it I doubt we will be able to buy new. We will still have a 1in30 and a ten day wait. I doubt he will be able to address those. And I don't see how a stay of his ruling could be delayed 10days. But Benitez could legalize AWs allowing is to remove all the grip wraps. If that happens stock up on featureless now so you are good to go.

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                        • #43
                          NoseGoblin
                          Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 157

                          Tagged for review...
                          Member of: NRA / CRPA / Calguns Assoc. Fight for what's yours....

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                          • #44
                            meno377
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                            • Jul 2013
                            • 4911

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                            Originally posted by Fjold
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                            • #45
                              SkyHawk
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 23454

                              Originally posted by moleculo
                              They're attempting to address the current situation where it's currently legal to possess and use magazines > 10 rounds except in fixed magazine semi-auto firearms with features. They're trying to get rid of that exception so that the magazines may be used in those specific type of firearms.
                              A 30rd mag in a mag locked 2.0 rifle just means I've got a bigger problem when it comes time to clear a malfunction in such a janky contraption.

                              I mean a win is a win, but it won't change my opinion on the practicality or desirability to own mag locked 2.0 rifles. It just isn't happening. No way, no how do I start converting featureless to mag locked 2.0. The Sparrow grip works just fine and leaves me with the most important feature of all - the standard mag release.

                              Of all the AW cases we could have gotten Benitez on, this one seems a waste. However, perhaps it is just me who can't see the long range potential of winning this case. I could be short sighted, I only play 2D chess.

                              Now can someone explain to me the 'Low Number Rule' that enabled this case to be transferred?
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