Miller v. Bonta 9th Ckt "assault weapons": Held for Duncan result 1-26-24

[Bolt_Action]

Lose in the 9th Circuit and appeal to the Supreme Court who will agree to hear the case (grant cert)

Any 4 of the following: Barrett, Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, or Kavanaugh.

[AbrahamBurden]

Translation?

We lose the case in the 9th (most likely outcome because despite Gronald Blumpf's nominally pro-2A appointees, the balance of judges there are still sh*tlibs, making the odds of a randomly selected panel being in our favor pretty bad), then appeal it immediately to the Supreme Court where nominally we should get a 5-4 decision our favor: Trump's 3 appointees + Alito and Thomas. (I don't trust John Roberts for a second.)

In that case, not only does the AW law in California get struck down, it would also invalidate AW laws nationwide (e.g. in New York, Maryland, or Massachusetts) and provide a much stronger judicial barrier to future laws trying to regulate AWs.

All this would of course take likely years. President* Biden could even be out of office by then.

[Bolt_Action]

[SpookyWatcher]

Excellent!

We didn't get kicked in the nachos today.

But now we have 1,500 more days of getting kicked in the nachos before any real true chance at justice.

And in 1,500 who knows what the SC makeup will look like.

[IVC]

Great news, we expected this win.

It's going to the 9th and there will almost certainly be a stay. The true battle will be at the 9th and whether they decide to challenge SCOTUS to take the case. The true resolution is about two years out.

[Bhobbs]

Immediate stay means it will have zero impact. They will appeal and we will wait years. The stay shouldn’t be triggered unless they appeal it.

[Droops]

Can some one briefly tell me the differences in challenges between Miller and Rupp.

Thanks.

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[abinsinia]

I guess we don't know who the judges are reviewing stay requests .. I think the 9th circuit hide those judges from us.

[Bhobbs]

I’m pretty sure Benitez issued the stay.

[Bhobbs]

[TempleKnight]

Can some one briefly tell me the differences in challenges between Miller and Rupp.

Thanks.

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In Rupp, the judge decided that AR15s are indistinguishable from M16s. This judge called BS. He noted that one is a machine gun and the other is just like any other semi.

[jcwatchdog]

[abinsinia]

Benitez gave 30 days, they have to get another stay from a higher court before that. If not, the ruling becomes effective.

[Davidwhitewolf]

Anybody else realizing 30 days from today is July 4th? Is the timing coincidental?

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I did not and all of a sudden it's dusty in here. Saint Benitez indeed.

[Richmond10mm]

Same. Let's get this to SCOTUS and get finality

The Mighty 2nd is the finality. DC limo political stenchers can fart all they want. The argument was won 236 years ago. SCOTUS doesn't have any power over my God-given rights.