Jones v. Bonta - Age-Based Ban on Firearm Purchases

[abinsinia]

You’re stuck pre NY v Bruen in the head.

How come you didn’t comment on a possible Writ of Mandamus? Do you know what that means?

No, I'm stuck in the 9th circuit which doesn't want to rule per Bruen. I'm a realist.

yes I know what Mandamus means, it's not a point that matters.

[strakill]

And how exactly is SCOTUS going to enforce? NY and CA already are thumbing their nose at them.

Who is going to make them follow SCOTUS rulings? We are long past the rule of law.

[taperxz]

No, I'm stuck in the 9th circuit which doesn't want to rule per Bruen. I'm a realist.

yes I know what Mandamus means, it's not a point that matters.

So, you think that possible sanctions from the SCOTUS means nothing to a subordinate judge?

Did you see how fast Benitez acted on this?

[taperxz]

And how exactly is SCOTUS going to enforce? NY and CA already are thumbing their nose at them.

Who is going to make them follow SCOTUS rulings? We are long past the rule of law.

[abinsinia]

So, you think that possible sanctions from the SCOTUS means nothing to a subordinate judge?

Did you see how fast Benitez acted on this?

You haven't followed the other cases. They are not moving fast. i don't think the 9th cares at all for SCOTUS .. They never have, that's why they entirely ignored the Heller case.

[Lanejsl]

I’m not going to splain this to you. I suggest you study up a bit on how this stuff works.

I think you need the splaining to pal. Polling shows that half the country doesn't believe SCOTUS is legitimate. If you think that the 9th is concerned about a reprimand from the high court then you haven't been paying attention. The only reason Benitez is fast tracking is because he's pro 2A and he isn't an activist judge.

[taperxz]

You haven't followed the other cases. They are not moving fast. i don't think the 9th cares at all for SCOTUS .. They never have, that's why they entirely ignored the Heller case.

[taperxz]

I think you need the splaining to pal. Polling shows that half the country doesn't believe SCOTUS is legitimate. If you think that the 9th is concerned about a reprimand from the high court then you haven't been paying attention. The only reason Benitez is fast tracking is because he's pro 2A and he isn't an activist judge.

[johncage]

barring arrest orders for contempt of court and national guard deployment, the 9th will not budge

[taperxz]

barring arrest orders for contempt of court and national guard deployment, the 9th will not budge

Yet, CA Sheriffs are issuing CCWs all over the state and SB 918 failed with a supermajority

[ronlglock]

Yet, CA Sheriffs are issuing CCWs all over the state and SB 918 failed with a supermajority

By one vote.

[moleculo]

I don't think that can be known, they don't tell you who the en banc panel is unless there is hearing, and this had no hearing.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/firearmspolicycoalition/pages/5345/attachments/original/1662567526/Jones_v_Bonta_Order.pdf?1662567526

There was no en banc panel. This was remanded by a typical 3 judge appeals panel. The en banc appeal was denied. They also didn't issue any reasoning for the remand - they just did it. It could have been one faulting reasoning (the hunting thing) or something else the panel felt was inconsistent with Bruen.

[abinsinia]

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir...pdf?1662567526

There was no en banc panel. This was remanded by a typical 3 judge appeals panel. The en banc appeal was denied. They also didn't issue any reasoning for the remand - they just did it. It could have been one faulting reasoning (the hunting thing) or something else the panel felt was inconsistent with Bruen.

As I said before I don't think we can know what influence the whole court had in that case. Something clearly changed on that panel.

[moleculo]

As I said before I don't think we can know what influence the whole court had in that case. Something clearly changed on that panel.

Yes we do know what influence the "whole court" had. The "whole" court was the 3 judge panel and that was it. There was no en banc panel selected to influence anything.

[taperxz]

By one vote.