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First Amendment carry case: Zeleny v Governor, AG, et al - USDC Northern District CA

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  • wolfwood
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 1371

    First Amendment carry case: Zeleny v Governor, AG, et al - USDC Northern District CA

    Here you go friends. Take a look. Basically the guy wants to carry as a form of political protest over some Silicon Valley CEO

    Take a look at his lawyers. This is a really legit firm. That is the lead lawyer. Whoever Zeleny is I respect his commitment because lawyers like this don't come cheap. http://www.agzlaw.com/david-w-affeld
    This document is a corrected first amended complaint filed by plaintiff Michael Zeleny against various defendants including California state officials, the City of Menlo Park, and New Enterprise Associates, Inc. Zeleny alleges that California statutes restricting the public display of firearms and the City's denial of a permit to hold entertainment events with simulated firearms violate his constitutional rights to free speech and to bear arms. The complaint seeks declaratory and injunctive relief as well as attorneys' fees.



    edit

    Mike is raising money. Let's all try to help him out.


    the whole docket to the case can be found here.

    Last edited by wolfwood; 01-24-2021, 1:41 AM.
  • #2
    Offwidth
    Senior Member
    • May 2018
    • 1222

    That’s some weird behaving dude.

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    • #3
      MountainLion
      Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 483

      This is very old. The plaintiff has been doing this kind of stuff for many years, perhaps 10 or so. He was also arrested about 5 or 10 years ago on Sand Hill Road (home of the vulture capitalists) when he was doing something similar, protesting with a gun. He is well known in Southern California gun collector circles for his magnificent collection of pistols, unbelievable intellect, and excellent taste in guns.
      meow

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      • #4
        Librarian
        Admin and Poltergeist
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 44623

        Case 3:17-cv-07357-RS

        Zeleny is a member here, though not very active.
        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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        • #5
          pacrat
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2014
          • 10254

          Originally posted by MountainLion
          This is very old. The plaintiff has been doing this kind of stuff for many years, perhaps 10 or so. He was also arrested about 5 or 10 years ago on Sand Hill Road (home of the vulture capitalists) when he was doing something similar, protesting with a gun. He is well known in Southern California gun collector circles for his magnificent collection of pistols, unbelievable intellect, and excellent taste in guns.
          5 days since filing [4-9-19] isn't all that old.

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          • #6
            wolfwood
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 1371

            Originally posted by MountainLion
            This is very old. The plaintiff has been doing this kind of stuff for many years, perhaps 10 or so. He was also arrested about 5 or 10 years ago on Sand Hill Road (home of the vulture capitalists) when he was doing something similar, protesting with a gun. He is well known in Southern California gun collector circles for his magnificent collection of pistols, unbelievable intellect, and excellent taste in guns.
            He helped a girl get money from her Dad because he sexually abused her according to the complaint. He exposed both the Dad and his company for covering it up and now is protesting so that the public know about the pedophilia. He now is suing for his right to protest with a gun. The case has been around for 2 years but what i linked to is a new complaint that was filed recently. Filing a new complaint sort of restarts a case.

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            • #7
              DentonandSasquatchShow
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2018
              • 1169

              If I read this right he is basically suing to be able to carry while at protests?

              I wondered when someone would fight back against this stupid law.
              I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.

              The last time I had faith in the News was when it was with Huey Lewis.

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              • #8
                Dale's Dead Bug
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2017
                • 73

                Originally posted by DentonandSasquatchShow
                If I read this right he is basically suing to be able to carry while at protests?

                I wondered when someone would fight back against this stupid law.
                It's pretty amusing... he's calling his protests "entertainment events and media productions" and using the "Hollywood exemption" as a defense of his right to carry at said "events."

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                • #9
                  Noble Cause
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2633

                  California Man Denied Permit to Protest
                  With Rifle Sues City of Menlo Park

                  The Truth About Guns. 4/14/2018


                  "Michael Zeleny, a free-speech and Second Amendment activist has
                  sued the City of Menlo Park, California, and a number of city and state
                  officials for denial of his civil rights under the First, Second and
                  Fourteenth Amendments. The reason: he was denied a permit to
                  protest while carrying an unloaded AK-47 rifle."


                  Mr Zeleny also made some remarks in the comment section of the
                  article (at least someone claiming to be him), including a Link to
                  some, uh, weird / sex animations regarding his ongoing dispute
                  against Min Zhu, Cisco WebEx founder, with commentary about his
                  2014 People v. Michael Zeleny

                  One of his comments:




                  Originating article:

                  Man who wanted to wave guns during
                  protest sues Menlo Park and 3 officials

                  Daily Post. 2/2/2018





                  Noble

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                  • #10
                    OleCuss
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 7435

                    I'm no legal expert, but it seems rather obvious that prohibiting unloaded open carry is a violation of the 1st Amendment.
                    CGN's token life-long teetotaling vegetarian. Don't consider anything I post as advice or as anything more than opinion (if even that).

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                    • #11
                      hoystory
                      Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 322

                      Originally posted by OleCuss
                      I'm no legal expert, but it seems rather obvious that prohibiting unloaded open carry is a violation of the 1st Amendment.
                      Only if you do it while stripping.
                      sigpic
                      Editor/Founder
                      RestrictedArms.com

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                      • #12
                        BryMan92
                        Member
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 360

                        Historically, the Colonists did this a lot by assembling with guns (sometimes loaded). Totally has some historical merit.

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                        • #13
                          wolfwood
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 1371

                          Answer to Second Amended complaint filed. This guy must be spending a small fortune to take on the state. I respect his commitment.

                          Last edited by wolfwood; 09-10-2019, 6:08 PM.

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                          • #14
                            mshill
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 4392

                            Originally posted by wolfwood
                            Answer to Second Amended complaint filed. This guy must be spending a small fortune to take on the state. I respect his commitment.

                            https://www.scribd.com/document/4253...ment-Complaint
                            Reading up to the first 25 paragraphs all I heard over and over is Sergeant Schultz reapeating "I know nothing!".
                            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                            • #15
                              command_liner
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 1171

                              Originally posted by mshill
                              Reading up to the first 25 paragraphs all I heard over and over is Sergeant Schultz reapeating "I know nthing!".
                              That is the first 25 pages of "I know nothing!". The AG of CA is devoid of any knowledge and plainly says so.
                              What about the 19th? Can the Commerce Clause be used to make it illegal for voting women to buy shoes from another state?

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