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Rhode v. Becerra (Challenge to CA Ammo Sales) - ORAL ARGS at 9th 11-9-2020

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  • Solidsnake87
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 4399

    When is the next court date on this? I seem to recall seeing something that Benitez was to release an opinion within 21 days of his injunction. If so, that would mean we would see a decision this week.
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    • TruOil
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 1925

      Originally posted by Solidsnake87
      When is the next court date on this? I seem to recall seeing something that Benitez was to release an opinion within 21 days of his injunction. If so, that would mean we would see a decision this week.
      Not Benitez, the Court of Appeals panel that decides motions for stays.

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      • BeAuMaN
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2015
        • 1193

        Originally posted by Solidsnake87
        When is the next court date on this? I seem to recall seeing something that Benitez was to release an opinion within 21 days of his injunction. If so, that would mean we would see a decision this week.
        As said previously. We'll see if they release it by friday or not:
        Originally posted by BeAuMaN
        Not sure. I imagine it's not going to be many weeks or months or whatever. It'd be great if someone pulled up another example of this happening and how long it took, but they are responding to an emergency stay so it shouldn't be that long.

        With that said, the FRAPs (Federal Rules of Appellate Procedures) says an emergency motion for relief to avoid irreparable is 21 days or less. So no later than 21 days probably? However I think it will be sooner than that? Not a lawyer; I just read this stuff
        Last edited by BeAuMaN; 05-13-2020, 3:00 PM.

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        • BeAuMaN
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2015
          • 1193

          I'd kind of agree though also that very discussion was a decent sized part of Benitez's opinion in the injunction (which Becerra complained about, heh).

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          • ShadowGuy
            Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 468

            Something was posted to the docket today. Anyone have access?

            ...Well, Mr. Dangerfield can feel better about himself now, because with Proposition 63, the Second Amendment gets even less respect than he does....
            - Hon. Roger T. Benitez

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            • abinsinia
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2015
              • 4073

              Originally posted by ShadowGuy
              Something was posted to the docket today. Anyone have access?

              https://www.courtlistener.com/docket...?order_by=desc

              Looks like something was granted.

              EDIT:

              looks like SILVERMAN, NGUYEN, and COLLINS granted the extension.
              Nominated by Clinton, Obummer, and Trump. Who wants to bet it was a 2-1 vote ?
              Last edited by abinsinia; 01-08-2024, 7:05 PM.

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              • fixitquick79
                Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 191

                Looks like 3 months or so before they even decide on the arguments. Blatant stalling tactic.

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                • abinsinia
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 4073

                  Can Benitez still continue with the case ?

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                  • ShadowGuy
                    Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 468

                    Originally posted by abinsinia
                    Looks like something was granted.

                    EDIT:

                    looks like SILVERMAN, NGUYEN, and COLLINS granted the extension.
                    Nominated by Clinton, Obummer, and Trump. Who wants to bet it was a 2-1 vote ?
                    Thanks for posting. Not unexpected from that grouping of judges.
                    ...Well, Mr. Dangerfield can feel better about himself now, because with Proposition 63, the Second Amendment gets even less respect than he does....
                    - Hon. Roger T. Benitez

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                    • abinsinia
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 4073

                      Originally posted by fixitquick79
                      Looks like 3 months or so before they even decide on the arguments. Blatant stalling tactic.
                      Looks like maybe two months. June 12, 2020 plus 28 days.

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                      • BeAuMaN
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2015
                        • 1193

                        Originally posted by abinsinia
                        Looks like something was granted.

                        EDIT:

                        looks like SILVERMAN, NGUYEN, and COLLINS granted the extension.
                        Nominated by Clinton, Obummer, and Trump. Who wants to bet it was a 2-1 vote ?
                        Just to clarify for those reading just now that this relates to the extension of time to file the brief for appeal, which is separate from the decision on the request to stay the injunction.

                        Also, regarding those three, as I said previously: I would not be quick to dismiss Silverman, as he dissented on 2A grounds in the En Banc Panel in Peruta (relating to CCW).

                        However, I've heard that the court generally grants extensions of time for filing a brief, but someone who is more familiar on the courts could say more.
                        Last edited by BeAuMaN; 05-13-2020, 6:13 PM.

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                        • champu
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 1981

                          Originally posted by abinsinia
                          Can Benitez still continue with the case ?

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                          • HowardW56
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 5901

                            Before: SILVERMAN, NGUYEN, and COLLINS, Circuit Judges.
                            The opposed motion for an extension of time to file the opening brief and
                            excerpts of record (Docket Entry No. 9) is granted. The opening brief and excerpts
                            of record are due June 12, 2020. The answering brief is due within 28 days after
                            service of the opening brief. The optional reply brief is due within 21 days after
                            service of the answering brief. See 9th Cir. R. 3-3(b).
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                            • SoCalSteven
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2017
                              • 10

                              The time extension was opposed unless the administrative stay was removed. Perhaps the administrative stay is going to be removed next? A guy can dream right?

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                              • BeAuMaN
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2015
                                • 1193

                                Originally posted by abinsinia
                                Can Benitez still continue with the case ?
                                Look at Duncan v Becerra for guidance.

                                Court documents are separated into three parts, from top to bottom: Appeal on Summary Judgement (that's the appeal on the district court's final decision), District Court, and Appeal on Injunction. Injunction was granted on 6/29/2017.

                                Appeal on Injunction ran from 7/28/2017 through 7/17/2018 (with the Memorandum/Decision affirming the injunction). You can see that Becerra requested a stay on district court proceedings pending appeal on the injunction on 8/7/2017, and filed the motion on on 9/11/2017. This was denied by District Court on 10/10/2017. The district court then proceeded with the case while the appeal on the injunction was ongoing.

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