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Young v. Hawaii (CA9); Dismissed with predjudice 12-16-22

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  • Kokopelli
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 3387

    Thank you for posting that.
    If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth. - Ronald Reagan

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    • abinsinia
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 4177

      I was watching the Chuck Michel NRATV spot, and he said in there that any three judge panel opinion in the 9th is binding to all other 3 judge panels. So that means that the Young opinion is effectively a win for Nichols and it should be immediate like 6 months.

      Unless... Young goes En Banc, and the opinion is vacated.

      The only way California can keep it's OC ban is for Young to go En Banc, and then it's reprieve will only last however long it takes for the SCOTUS to take it and rules on it.

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      • wireless
        Veteran Member
        • May 2010
        • 4346

        This ruling has been surprisingly quite. Peruta was the main article on LA Times, SF Gate, SF Chronicle, and a few other CA news sources within hours of the opinion being released.

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        • krucam
          Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 334

          Originally posted by wireless
          This ruling has been surprisingly quite. Peruta was the main article on LA Times, SF Gate, SF Chronicle, and a few other CA news sources within hours of the opinion being released.
          Only because the Young decision hasn't impacted CA....YET...wonderful precedent for y'all to be sitting under...
          Mark C.
          DFW, TX

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          • CandG
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Apr 2014
            • 16970

            Originally posted by wireless
            This ruling has been surprisingly quite. Peruta was the main article on LA Times, SF Gate, SF Chronicle, and a few other CA news sources within hours of the opinion being released.
            I've been seeing the news popping up all over the place
            Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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            • bigstick61
              Veteran Member
              • May 2008
              • 3211

              Originally posted by wireless
              This ruling has been surprisingly quite. Peruta was the main article on LA Times, SF Gate, SF Chronicle, and a few other CA news sources within hours of the opinion being released.
              Not a peep in the printed LA Times yesterday.

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              • Chewy65
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2013
                • 5041

                And yet a story attributed to The Los Angeles Times is being run by the Manhattan Mercury of Manhattan, Kansas. Kansas became a constitutional carry state a year or two back.
                Last edited by Chewy65; 07-26-2018, 1:46 PM.

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                • Equitymind
                  Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 204

                  Great news for the fight. Thanks to Mr. Young and Mr. Beck for taking on this challenge.
                  NRA member

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                  • CCWFacts
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2007
                    • 6168

                    Originally posted by bigstick61
                    Not a peep in the printed LA Times yesterday.
                    They have to make room for the immigration sob stories they have been running every day for two years.
                    "Weakness is provocative."
                    Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

                    Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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                    • x90
                      Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 401

                      Once this case proceeds to the next stage (en banc request or goes back to district court), someone with time on their hands should send a FOIA request to the county as well as the Hawaii AG for any communications about the ruling they've had with AGs from other states (California, Maryland, etc), including records of scheduled calls if such communication was by phone. It will be interesting to see which AGs were pushing for en banc and if any were against.
                      Last edited by x90; 07-26-2018, 2:39 PM.

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                      • marcusrn
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                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1176

                        Hawaiians have been separated from their small legal guns for years and nobody cries for them. If they were to call them illegal alien guns we would have lots of positive press for the tiny precious guns.
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                        • Rcjackrabbit
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 971

                          Originally posted by OldBoldPilot

                          Your condescension and disrespect in referring to them as "soldierettes" is a solid indication of your view of women in general.
                          I'll tell you what I have seen concerning women as warriors in 30 years of martial arts. I have a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Shotokan karate.

                          Women are not equal to men as fighters. Period. End of story.

                          I have met 2 women that I lost to in 30 years. And, I am nothing special.

                          They are rare. Letting them into the military as fighters is a HUGE mistake. They just don't have what it takes.

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                          • Kukuforguns
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 659

                            Originally posted by Rcjackrabbit
                            I'll tell you what I have seen concerning women as warriors in 30 years of martial arts. I have a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Shotokan karate.

                            Women are not equal to men as fighters. Period. End of story.

                            I have met 2 women that I lost to in 30 years. And, I am nothing special.

                            They are rare. Letting them into the military as fighters is a HUGE mistake. They just don't have what it takes.
                            Please start your own thread

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                            • randomBytes
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1607

                              Originally posted by Metal God
                              I feel so sad . After Peruta and that fantastic 3 judge panel decision and what followed , I have zero confidence this will work out in are favor .
                              The opinion here is just as good as Peruta - same author, who I assume took delight in leveraging the Peruta en-banc result - which says no right to concealed - means you must have open carry.
                              I also loved the dissection and dismissal of the dissent (which reflects common anti arguments).

                              No doubt this will go en banc, and 9th will rule that there is no right to bear at all - which then becomes a slam dunk at SCOTUS, provided congress get's their job done and confirms Trumps nominee.

                              Of course we'll have to wait at least 2 weeks

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                              • Offwidth
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2018
                                • 1233

                                Originally posted by Rcjackrabbit
                                Women are not equal to men as fighters. Period. End of story.
                                My 14 years old daughter shoots better than most of men I know. And runs faster.

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