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  • #16
    180ls1
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2009
    • 6444

    Originally posted by DSMeyer
    Man your an animal! That is a loooooooong day of hiking at altitude.
    I guess ill find out. Ive heard its brutal.
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    • #17
      Flowmini98
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 651

      Originally posted by 180ls1
      If your doing crossfit than most hunting will be a joke depending on your age and the type of hunting. The hunting just gets tiring from long days for the most part and packing animals out. Thats my experience at least at my young age.
      Thats the problem, since I lift more now and do crossfit less, im thinking i will be in for a rude awakening.

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      • #18
        Flowmini98
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 651

        Originally posted by 180ls1
        I guess ill find out. Ive heard its brutal.
        That sounds brutal. Best of luck, let us know how it goes.

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        • #19
          252yft
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2008
          • 710

          Use to lift but not anymore. Conditioning is the key for me. Every morning it's a 3 mile walk,hike with the dog and try for 5 miles in the evening. I'm not only working me, but the dog.

          As for altitude sickness, I use alka seltzer. It's in my pack comes in handy. I'll be in UT on 9-18 for my annual elk hunt around 7500 to 9000 feet. The hiking doesn't kill me. It's getting her out of the bushes and onto flat land that kicks my butt.
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          • #20
            MJB
            CGSSA Associate
            • Sep 2010
            • 5922

            To expand on Lew's elevation

            Take baby aspirin or heart low dose aspirin......take lots of water & aspirin few days to a week before you go. Then when you get to elevation don't really do much just let your body adjust. If you do get a headache drop in elevation until you feel better and drink lots of water and rest. Sometimes in a few hours your better and back on the trail
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            • #21
              mwunsch
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 698

              Originally posted by DSMeyer
              Ok guys, figured I've been fat and lazy long enough and don't want to kick it in a different state hunting. What's you training regime. I pretty much work my upper body all day at work and then hike the local hills durian alternating evenings. Currently I'm hiking/jogging 2.5 miles with nearly 1200ft(total)of an average 14% climb at 45 minutes. Then jogging an easier route (not as steep)down in 20 minutes. Gotta love IPhone apps.
              I run a gym in Santa Clarita and use to have a website called hunterstrength. If you have questions feel free to PM me about fitness. I train people for a living and do quite well at it. I'd stay away from crossfit by the way. Jogging won't do much for general conditioning, the return on investment isn't there. Unfortunately most people feel that running to get into shape is the best way but it typically is too hard on the knees, hips and back. The one post with the back squats, front squats, cleans etc is way too pattern dominant. Crossfit works for a short time if one is healthy and young but crossfit too long and you won't be. Not bashing crossfit, it has been great for reintroducing Olympic lifting and building a community, just it's not for everyone, especially people looking to "get into shape". It has an extremely high volume and very little if no periodization, or in English, planning. If one is serious about health, hire a professional with your goals. Good luck.
              Mike Wunsch
              Director of Training
              Results Fitness

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              • #22
                mwunsch
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 698

                Originally posted by Flowmini98
                Thats the problem, since I lift more now and do crossfit less, im thinking i will be in for a rude awakening.
                I'd be willing to bet the opposite. Depending on what and how you lift.

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                • #23
                  180ls1
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 6444

                  Originally posted by MJB
                  To expand on Lew's elevation

                  Take baby aspirin or heart low dose aspirin......take lots of water & aspirin few days to a week before you go. Then when you get to elevation don't really do much just let your body adjust. If you do get a headache drop in elevation until you feel better and drink lots of water and rest. Sometimes in a few hours your better and back on the trail
                  Ive heard that before. Ill keep that in mind.

                  Originally posted by mwunsch
                  I run a gym in Santa Clarita and use to have a website called hunterstrength. If you have questions feel free to PM me about fitness. I train people for a living and do quite well at it. I'd stay away from crossfit by the way. Jogging won't do much for general conditioning, the return on investment isn't there. Unfortunately most people feel that running to get into shape is the best way but it typically is too hard on the knees, hips and back. The one post with the back squats, front squats, cleans etc is way too pattern dominant. Crossfit works for a short time if one is healthy and young but crossfit too long and you won't be. Not bashing crossfit, it has been great for reintroducing Olympic lifting and building a community, just it's not for everyone, especially people looking to "get into shape". It has an extremely high volume and very little if no periodization, or in English, planning. If one is serious about health, hire a professional with your goals. Good luck.
                  Mike Wunsch
                  Director of Training
                  Results Fitness
                  Im not calling you out but jogging is great for cardiovascular endurance. There is a reason why it has been around for so long.

                  Crossfit is also great if you have good self control and know what your doing. Going to a good gym is also key.

                  I also would disagree that doing squats, cleans and other olympic lifts is too pattern dominant. The big Olympic lifts are the best lifts that you can do (body allowing).
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                  • #24
                    NickTheGreek
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2487

                    Originally posted by 180ls1
                    Im not calling you out but jogging is great for cardiovascular endurance. There is a reason why it has been around for so long.
                    Nobody is saying jogging isn't a great cardio workout. He's implying the negatives on your joints outweight the benefits on your heart/lungs. Low impact cardio is the way to go. I used to be able to run non-stop, until I had to eat or use the restroom. My knees and feet and back are destroyed now because of it.
                    Originally posted by rootuser
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                    • #25
                      180ls1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 6444

                      Originally posted by NickTheGreek
                      Nobody is saying jogging isn't a great cardio workout. He's implying the negatives on your joints outweight the benefits on your heart/lungs. Low impact cardio is the way to go. I used to be able to run non-stop, until I had to eat or use the restroom. My knees and feet and back are destroyed now because of it.
                      Id still disagree, running is excellent for conditioning as long as you are smart about it. You dont have to jog or run in a matter that crushes your joints. Low impact cardio is great though.
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                      • #26
                        Untamed1972
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 17579

                        Originally posted by lewdogg21
                        For those who are going up to like 4,000' in elevation and more...

                        That's what will kick the hell out of you. The thiner air and elevation makes a simple uphill walk a chore. FWIW you can get altitude sickness at low elevations. I'm pretty sure I got it from backpacking in 5-6 miles at only 6,500-7,000 feet. Drink lots of water and be careful.
                        My place is at 3500.....problem solved LOL

                        Even when living at elevations nearer to sea level I never noticed any effect at 4000'. But walking across the parking lot to the lift at Mammoth on the first day of a trip at 7500-8000ft was very noticeable.
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                        • #27
                          Untamed1972
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 17579

                          Originally posted by mwunsch
                          I run a gym in Santa Clarita and use to have a website called hunterstrength. If you have questions feel free to PM me about fitness. I train people for a living and do quite well at it. I'd stay away from crossfit by the way. Jogging won't do much for general conditioning, the return on investment isn't there. Unfortunately most people feel that running to get into shape is the best way but it typically is too hard on the knees, hips and back. The one post with the back squats, front squats, cleans etc is way too pattern dominant. Crossfit works for a short time if one is healthy and young but crossfit too long and you won't be. Not bashing crossfit, it has been great for reintroducing Olympic lifting and building a community, just it's not for everyone, especially people looking to "get into shape". It has an extremely high volume and very little if no periodization, or in English, planning. If one is serious about health, hire a professional with your goals. Good luck.
                          Mike Wunsch
                          Director of Training
                          Results Fitness
                          Great advice to scare people off. Like most personal trainers you set the beginning bar WAY to high. Reality....most people cannot afford a personal trainer. So claiming the "only/best way to get real results is to hire a professional" just eliminated 90% of the population. Great marketing plan!
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                          "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                          • #28
                            DSMeyer
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 2689

                            Originally posted by Untamed1972
                            My place is at 3500.....problem solved LOL

                            Even when living at elevations nearer to sea level I never noticed any effect at 4000'. But walking across the parking lot to the lift at Mammoth on the first day of a trip at 7500-8000ft was very noticeable.
                            Tell me about it. Last trip to Wyoming we acclimated fairly well as we took our time driving there ( couple of days) but I shot a nice big, fat whitetail doe and carried/drug that dead weight for about 2 miles to the pick up spot. I felt like I was dragging all day and half the night I was sucking wind do bad.
                            We'll just give them the 'ol number 6.

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                            • #29
                              NickTheGreek
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 2487

                              Originally posted by 180ls1
                              Id still disagree, running is excellent for conditioning as long as you are smart about it. You dont have to jog or run in a matter that crushes your joints. Low impact cardio is great though.
                              I've yet to see a way to run/jog without stressing joints.

                              Personally I train to hunt and have never had a reason in the field to run or jog. Long distance up steep hills with a heavy pack? Every trip, so that is what I work up to be able to handle.

                              I have been known to do quick sprints up steep hills with my pack and fire shots off to train to accurately fire a weapon with adrenaline rushing and increased heart rate, but I limit it because again, the joints.

                              But to each his own. After doing much reading on the subject I have made the decision to avoid any impact exercises when possible.
                              Originally posted by rootuser
                              There are too many in this forum that do nothing. Don't vote, don't belong to the NRA, don't donate time and or money, etc etc so the anti-gun bills will just keep coming and coming. You are right. Us doing nothing at all won't help.

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                              • #30
                                180ls1
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 6444

                                Originally posted by NickTheGreek
                                I've yet to see a way to run/jog without stressing joints.

                                Personally I train to hunt and have never had a reason in the field to run or jog. Long distance up steep hills with a heavy pack? Every trip, so that is what I work up to be able to handle.

                                I have been known to do quick sprints up steep hills with my pack and fire shots off to train to accurately fire a weapon with adrenaline rushing and increased heart rate, but I limit it because again, the joints.

                                But to each his own. After doing much reading on the subject I have made the decision to avoid any impact exercises when possible.
                                Yeah sounds like you have some major joint issues going on so its probably not a good idea for you. For people that dont running can be a great way to strengthen muscles and increase their vo2 max which will make hunting easier.
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