Wild Pig Hunting Reg Changes

[hikingwithguns]

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140AB2268&search_keywords=

Stumbled across this bill based on an alert from SCI. Whaddya think? Could be good bringing our state regs in line with other states?

Or would this cause loss of pig hunting opportunity? As it is, I don't see any huge objections as it gets rid of the stupid tags. But I tend to be suspicious of bills in this state

[glockman19]

[HOGDOG1955]

i think i like it except i dont care for the part about having to notify them before hunting at night.

[deckhandmike]

i think i like it except i dont care for the part about having to notify them before hunting at night.

I doubt that would last. Imagine how many calls they would have to screen.

[hikingwithguns]

Soubds like it is directed at Taejon Ranch or any other fenced in hunting ranch that feeds pigs and is fenced.

"The bill would also define “pigs” and prohibit the release of pigs into uncontrolled areas. The bill would provide that an area shall be deemed controlled if the pigs are regularly cared for and enclosed by a lawful fence, as defined. The bill would provide that an owner of a pig that escapes from a controlled area who has complied with this provision is not deemed to be in violation of any law that prohibits the release of any animal."

Tejon ranch is many things, but one thing it is not is a high fence operation. You must be thinking of BHCR. Tejon is 100% fair chase.

Also, hogdog, the night depredation part is for private land, which is currently allowed sometimes under dep permits but more of a pain to get. Looks like this would streamline the process and since pigs would be non-game the meat would not have to be used...I think.

[Toptuna]

Tejon ranch is many things, but one thing it is not is a high fence operation. You must be thinking of BHCR. Tejon is 100% fair chase.

Also, hogdog, the night depredation part is for private land, which is currently allowed sometimes under dep permits but more of a pain to get. Looks like this would streamline the process and since pigs would be non-game the meat would not have to be used...I think.

It's is fenced actually.

[hikingwithguns]

Cattle fencing is not the same as high fenced and feeding pigs.

Wild animals run right through that.

Maybe you are thinking of the elk farm near Tejon where all the elk in the area escaped from? I can assure you that pigs, elk and deer can move on too and off of Tejon freely, unless the suddenly put up huge fences over hundreds of miles recently. Cattle fences with 4 or so strands of barbed wire won't stop them.

It sure as heck isn't a canned hunt.

[Henry Shooter]

Interesting. I question the state of California losing money to protect vital land. Sounds like a biologist might have got some research right.
I like it. But going from one pig tag for each pig for the price of around $22 to a pig validation for $15. The states gonna lose money.

Will bring California into other states mode of regulating pigs. And put regulations on managed pigs. Wouldn't have worked in San Diego county. Tribes will be exempt.

[edgerly779]

This is great. Will save hunters some money.

[MJB]

Glad they did away with the study part......that would of taken 5 years.

The key is they are not big game......non game rules apply with exceptions.

And Tejon does not feed their pigs or fence them in.

[HOGDOG1955]

hiking with guns. as the laws stand right now we can legally kill hogs at night on private land and you only notify the state after you have killed hogs not inform them where you will be prior to going out. we used to get depradation permits that specifically said we could hunt at night, use knives, dogs and lights.but several years ago they got new management in the monterey office and they changed how they issued permits. and hunting under the encounter law is much smoother than using the permit process normally. hypothetically you could hunt certain ranches, farms, vineyards etc and take hundreds of hogs on them for many years and never report them to f and g. only reason you would then have to report that nights take is if you were stopped by f and g or leo and had dead hogs.

[Eric Mayer]

i think i like it except i dont care for the part about having to notify them before hunting at night.

We had one warden that required us to do that when we were on rabbit depredation hunts. Easy enough, just call and leave a message. Email would be the way to do it now.

Eric

[HOGDOG1955]

i know im pushin it but it would be nice if they took off limitations of method of take/ legalize knife kills. and i guess i need to say i am referring to depradtion type hunting not sport hunting as it applies under current laws here.

[HOGDOG1955]

eric the probem here is that the wardens try to catch us for anything they can if we get depradation permits. i mean us as in dog hunters.

[Eric Mayer]

eric the probem here is that the wardens try to catch us for anything they can if we get depradation permits. i mean us as in dog hunters.

When we were doing our depredation hunting, it was in an area that had serious deer poaching, so they were flying a plane. We were not told what nights, so they just notified the plane when and where we were shooting. I admit that I felt uncomfortable with giving them the information, as it can always be used nefariously. But getting stopped with 100's of cottontail in totes packed in my Jeep would have been an issue if the local DFG Warden didn't know. Thankfully, he was at the BBQ with the landowner when we were discussing the removal plan and approved giving them to the workers on the ranch after we shot them.

Eric