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  • sickboy774
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 352

    Food plots for deer?

    I have 40 acres in the southern sierras that I would like to make more attractive to the local deer. I have plenty of pinon nuts from the native trees but would like to set up food plots for them around the property. I am setting up some IBC containers for watering troughs so that's covered. Wondering if anyone has any tips on what to plant...trees, plants, or shrubs. BTW the are is at 6500' and i forgot what planting zone.
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    tony270
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 3344

    Not legal to bait deer in CA, can't feed any wild game animal, non game animals are okay without the use of dogs. There's a legal way to do it, read the baiting regulation, someone might post the link.

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    • #3
      Bainter1212
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2013
      • 5936

      As far as I know, it is legal to plant deer friendly plants and put out water troughs......check the regs first though.

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      • #4
        LynnJr
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        • Jan 2013
        • 7946

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          tony270
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          • Aug 2010
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          • #6
            hikingwithguns
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 554

            This again.

            It is not legal to bait, it is however legal to hunt where bona fide ag operations are taking place or where crops are grown for wildlife management. You have to grow the crop, you can't just throw a sack of corn or wheat out.

            OP, your best bet is to talk to dfg biologists and see what they recommend.
            Last edited by hikingwithguns; 02-23-2014, 3:59 PM.
            This is public land, we're not hunting, we're hiking with guns. There are no deer or pigs on public land

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            • #7
              sickboy774
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 352

              Looks like I'll let the natural plants do the trick.
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              • #8
                Roboshred
                Member
                • Mar 2003
                • 260

                Apple trees ! You can harvest them!
                Clover , legumes... All natural.. Berries left
                To grow naturally.. What they don't allow is
                You putting out licks with no grazing herd
                You sell, no dropping stuff or spreading feed.
                It's basic..
                "here we are now, entertain us"

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                • #9
                  Toptuna
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 712

                  You can bait deer up to 11 days before the season . It's useful to see what size animals are around and what animals to pass on. Just plant a dozen or so apple trees but food plots are a no-go ...

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                  • #10
                    hikingwithguns
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 554

                    Originally posted by Toptuna
                    but food plots are a no-go ...


                    That is wrong, re-read the law cited above. For example, you can grow a food plot of barley that will attract pigs and then sit in the middle of it if you want and shoot wild pigs. A food plot is grown, not a dumped sack of corn. I have to think hunter ed instructors are erring on the side of caution and not explaining this part of the law well.

                    Definition of food plot: "A food plot is a planted area set aside to act as a food source for wildlife."
                    Here is an explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5JtnK64RPg
                    Here is an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLz4fhKOoD4

                    Sickboy, talk to your local game warden to get his interpretation of the law, and then ask a biologist what you should grow at that altitude.

                    If you are interested in natural plants, creating early successional habitat may be the key if you have old growth forest. Its impossible for me to know exactly what is needed on your particular property, thats why you should talk to a dfg biologist.
                    Last edited by hikingwithguns; 02-24-2014, 12:59 AM.
                    This is public land, we're not hunting, we're hiking with guns. There are no deer or pigs on public land

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                    • #11
                      mofugly13
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 885

                      I'd be interested to know if food plots are illegal. Last weekend I was at the ranch I hunt, and while driving around, came across an area that the owner had cleared of brush and graded a couple of seasons ago. But there were now signs up saying "Keep Out, Deer food plot". It was my understanding that baiting or attracting deer in any way for hunting purposes was illegal, however the F&G code cited above makes a planted plot seem like a gray area. I have gone through the CA DFG answers to questions and I think I remember them saying that food plots are indeed illegal to hunt over or within 400 yards.
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                      • #12
                        ChrisBrooklyn
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1308

                        My friends with land in Louisiana and Mississippi all plant specific stuff to attract deer. They said its legal to plant but illegal to just bait them.

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                        • #13
                          Spyder
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 16791

                          Originally posted by Toptuna
                          You can bait deer up to 11 days before the season .
                          No, you can't. Please don't give advice that is going to get people in trouble.

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                          • #14
                            hikingwithguns
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 554

                            Originally posted by mofugly13
                            I'd be interested to know if food plots are illegal. Last weekend I was at the ranch I hunt, and while driving around, came across an area that the owner had cleared of brush and graded a couple of seasons ago. But there were now signs up saying "Keep Out, Deer food plot". It was my understanding that baiting or attracting deer in any way for hunting purposes was illegal, however the F&G code cited above makes a planted plot seem like a gray area. I have gone through the CA DFG answers to questions and I think I remember them saying that food plots are indeed illegal to hunt over or within 400 yards.


                            There is no gray area, it is perfectly legal. Read the law again. An exception is either bona fide ag operations or when planted for wildlife management. You just cannot harvest the grain and then dump it in the field. I feel like this question is akin to the "separate container" urban gun myth that just won't go away. Even some LEO may believe its illegal, does not make it so.

                            As far as the Carrie Wilson Q&A don't get me started, that column is full of fail.

                            This is public land, we're not hunting, we're hiking with guns. There are no deer or pigs on public land

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                            • #15
                              taperxz
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 19395

                              Originally posted by Toptuna
                              You can bait deer up to 11 days before the season . It's useful to see what size animals are around and what animals to pass on. Just plant a dozen or so apple trees but food plots are a no-go ...
                              Uhhh, tell that to those who hunt ducks over rice.

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